Re: [exim] Retry hint left over after successfuldelivery

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Author: W B Hacker
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To: exim users
Old-Topics: Re: [exim] *Suspect* Re: Retry hint left over after successful delivery
Subject: Re: [exim] Retry hint left over after successfuldelivery
Simon Johnstone wrote:
> On 27 May 2010, at 18:44, W B Hacker wrote:
>
>> - set retry to fail - not at 3 or 4 days, but rather at one day or less. Even 15
>> minutes may be appreciated by some business clients.
>
> Interesting approach - I tend to drop delay_warning fairly low for similar reasons.


It's the age we live in. smtp no longer seen as an alternative to TWIX/TELEX, or
snail mail. Rather more phone, fax, SMS et al.

IOW - short interval is what today's 'consumer' logically expects / prefers.

WTH - snail mail and courier can be much faster than 3 or 4 day smtp 'fail', and
most have online incremental tracking number updates.

As to why I drop the attempt not just report (periodicaly) with delay_warning ..
it is 'probable' that the sender of yesterday's fail will want to send a
DIFFERENT message today in the light of the fail.

Or send by another means AND NOT have the delayed message showing up as a
complication later.

>
>> The poor souls sitting behind dodgy or over-zealous greylisters, otherwise
>> unreliable servers- noen of which you can 'fix' from your end - self-Identify to
>> their correspondents, (and no others). Those now-alerted correspondents may then
>> seek some other way to reach them if the situation warrants that.
>>
>> ...and there are not likely to be many retry hints at large, duplicated or
>> otherwise.
>
> What happens to the retry hint(s) created during the first delivery attempt?


Fair question - but one for others - I no longer have enough traffic that fails
on first attempt to generate useful stats.

Bill