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Autor: Mark Smith
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: exim-users-bounces@???
> [mailto:exim-users-bounces@exim.org] On Behalf Of Greg A. Woods
> Sent: 17 June 2005 05:03
> To: Exim User's Mailing List
> Subject: [exim] a large number of domains fronted by Exim are
> refusingbounces...
>
> An extremely large number of domains fronted by Exim are now
> refusing bounce messages (i.e. empty envelope sender
> addresses). This seems to be some relatively new thing (last
> few months?) that many large hosting providers are doing --
> some claim to be handling as many as 70,000 domains or more.


I get especially annoyed when a mailing list using a <bounces@> sender
address either refuses bounces or claims that the address doesn't exist!

I would dearly love to refuse mail from any host that ignores the protocols,
but there are so many large companies out there with misconfigured servers
that our customers would have a fit when they couldn't get their email. I'm
not happy with this, as it's akin to allowing people to ignore road traffic
regulations as they see fit, but unless a large number of admins take a
united stand on the situation it's unlikely to change.

> Unfortunately at least some of these
> providers, including lunarpages.com, don't seem to be
> offering SMTP-over-SSL nor SUBMIT/STARTTLS, so their
> customers cannot use their hosted domains as outbound relays
> (yet) either.


Why can't these customers just use the email service that comes with their
hosting packages?

- Mark