Re: [Exim] About this list

Sorry for my crashing-in reply on that, I don't know to which posting I
should exactly reply here. This is a reply to a virtual summary of the last
2 hours discussion or so.

The Reply-to header problem:
I believe there's a more or less simple way to satisfy almost everyone
subscribed to the list. Why can't just everyone choose with his subscription
whether he wants the Reply-to header pointed to the list (may this be 'good'
or not) or not set at all (which is the standard for this list, I believe).
Someone also proposed this after I began composing this text...

CC to others or not?
How does someone who's not subscribed normally write a mail to the list? The
first case is he replies to a web-archived posting. If he can do this, then
why shouldn't he also be able to bookmark the page and revisit it for
replies? But is it appreciated to reply to a web mail anyway, since the
mailer won't be able to set those holy References headers correctly...
Second case is he starts the thread by a new posting to the list. OK, I
don't currently have a solution for that.

Then we have users with not-so-richly equipped MUAs, like me with that silly
old Outlook Express. I don't see an alternative for it ATM, but this should
be my personal problem for now. Still waiting for a stable Thunderbird
release... But also if users don't want to do this "dupe filtering" or whose
MUA is just not capable of correctly assigning the two copies [1], why can't
there be another option to the subscription, to be implemented in the
Mailing List Manager: don't forward any mail over the list if the particular
receipient is already CC-listed. These two user configuration options could
IMHO avoid much of this discussion.

And what about the poor "non-receipients" that get no further replies just
because one poster had left him out some days ago, even if all his follow-up
posters didn't remove any CC receipients? This system is quite unreliable,
anyway.

[Steve Lamb: something about list messages take longer]
ACK, sometimes it's even up to 20min, depending on the list.

[again Steve Lamb: big CC lists, unsubscribing etc.]
I agree. What would a list exist for then?

[SH Solutions: The per-user configuration stuff]
Damn, you were faster! *g*

[Steve Lamb: This is against RFC2822]
Could be, but a workaround if effectively still better that the problems
we're discussing about here. At least until all major MUAs can handle this
to the users' satisfaction. And I mean, what are 'standards' good for if
they're not sufficiently respected/implemented? Me, I cannot just go and
change my favourite MUA as I'd like to... (And it's not for it being closed
source!)

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[1] I personally would see it as an advantage if I got one reply into my
list folder and one into the inbox, too! But a correct threaded display and
marking threads could also help with this.

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Yves Goergen
nospam.list@???
Please don't CC me (causes double mails)