Re: [Exim] STRANGE DEVELOPMENT WITH MAIL ABUSE SERVICES

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Autor: Oliver Egginger
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A: Odhiambo G. Washington
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Assumpte: Re: [Exim] STRANGE DEVELOPMENT WITH MAIL ABUSE SERVICES
You wrote:

> I believe I am right in saying that everyone having clients numbering
> about 1k will have this open relay problem.


We have more than 1k clients. We don't have this problem.

1. Our mailsystems ar'nt open relays.
2. We have configured our network to discard every SMTP
connexion which don't _come_from_ OR _go_to_ our
mailsystems.

- oliver


Complete message from Saturday, 25. Mai 2002 08:24:
> Hello world,
>
> PS: I see this as an emergency, hence the caps lock on my subject.
>
> A turn of events has gotten me thorougly surprised. It makes me think that
> the world economy has gotten so bad that even in those parts of the world
> where we wouldn't imagine that these kind of things would happen are no
> more exempt. I see some guys in the US have found a brilliant way to extort
> money from the Internet.
>
> I am talking about a situation where people now have to pay services like
> orbz.org, and such like to have their address(blocks) removed from the
> blacklist databases. I am not specifically talking about orbz.org but I
> only use it as an example.
>
> The new kid on the block (yes, I hadn't heard about them before) blacklists
> a whole IP block just because one client installed M$ Winblows 2000 with
> its dreaded SMTPSVC and was used by some geek to relay. Well I am talking
> about http://www.mailabusedatabase.com/ !! I think a bunch of morons are
> behind this, hoping that money can be made so easily. I call them morons
> because they do not weigh the net effect of their scheme.
>
> I believe I am right in saying that everyone having clients numbering
> about 1k will have this open relay problem. What with clients installing
> all sorts of OSes with built-in MTA, while not even knowing a thing
> about open relaying??
>
> As I speak, I have my 62.8.64.0/24 blacklisted by them just because one
> of my clients with M$ 2000 Server was abused. Very short-sighted IMHO.
> But now they say I _MUST_ pay them US$ 25 before they can remove the block
> from the blacklist. Initially when I got the mail I thought it's a prank
> but when I checked their website I found they actually *demand* that I
> pay them.
>
> I guess I am ranting but I am imagining a situation where all such services
> will be asking admins of blacklisted blocks to pay to be removed from the
> blacklist. Of course people (me in particular) will NOT pay.
>
> The end result is a crippled Internet.
>
>
> What is the world's stand on this???
>
>
> -Wash


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