[Exim] Can ANYONE help with this problem?

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Auteur: George R Kasica
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Aan: exim-users
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Onderwerp: [Exim] Can ANYONE help with this problem?
I've been seeing this type of message sent back to me by majordomo
1.94.5 and exim 3.16 since I installed it in June or so....it doesn't
appear to be a REAL error since the digests are created and do go out
but its VERY annyoing...any ideas on what causes this or how to fix
it? I'm stumped....

George


>This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
>A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
>  skunk-works-digestify@???:
>    generated |/home/majordom/wrapper digest -r -C -l skunk-works-digest skunk-works-digest-outgoing

>
>The following text was generated during the delivery attempt:
>
>------ |/home/majordom/wrapper digest -r -C -l skunk-works-digest skunk-works-digest-outgoing ------
>
>LOG: 0 MAIN
>  <= owner-skunk-works-digest@??? U=majordom P=local S=35844
>Exim version 3.16 debug level 1 uid=8 gid=12
>Berkeley DB: Sleepycat Software: DB 2.4.14: (6/2/98)
>delivering message 14B730-0003w1-00
>LOG: 0 MAIN
>  => georgek <skunk-works-digest-outgoing@???> D=procmail T=procmail
> 15198 Remote delivery process 15198 started
> 15198 Connecting to punt-1.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.35] ... 
> 15199 Remote delivery process 15199 started
> 15199 Connecting to mx04.earthlink.net [207.217.120.100] ... 
> 15200 Remote delivery process 15200 started
> 15201 Remote delivery process 15201 started
> 15201 Connecting to smtpproxy2.mitre.org [128.29.154.90] ... 
> 15200 Connecting to relay.mod.uk [192.5.29.50] ... 
> 15202 Remote delivery process 15202 started
> 15202 Connecting to mx.together.net [209.91.0.62] ... 
> 15203 Remote delivery process 15203 started
> 15203 Connecting to funhouse.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.254.140] ... 
> 15204 Remote delivery process 15204 started
> 15204 Connecting to mailhub.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.180] ... 
> 15205 Remote delivery process 15205 started
> 15205 Connecting to mailgate2.cadence.com [158.140.2.31] ... 
> 15206 Remote delivery process 15206 started
> 15206 Connecting to mail.photon.com [216.141.160.131] ... 
> 15201 connected
> 15199 connected
> 15209 Remote delivery process 15209 started
> 15209 Connecting to umcc.ais.org [208.176.209.197] ... 
> 15208 Remote delivery process 15208 started
> 15208 Connecting to gold.truman.edu [150.243.90.6] ... 
> 15207 Remote delivery process 15207 started
> 15207 Connecting to motgate2.mot.com [136.182.1.10] ... 
> 15202 connected
> 15210 Remote delivery process 15210 started
> 15210 Connecting to b.mx.net-link.net [216.93.66.111] ... 
> 15211 Remote delivery process 15211 started
> 15211 Connecting to svr1.hkisl.net [202.74.0.130] ... 
> 15212 Remote delivery process 15212 started
> 15203 connected
> 15213 Remote delivery process 15213 started
> 15213 Connecting to owens.ridgecrest.ca.us [199.120.150.1] ... 
> 15212 Connecting to wizvax.wizvax.net [199.181.141.5] ... 
> 15198 connected
> 15215 Remote delivery process 15215 started
> 15215 Connecting to mail.sonic.net [209.204.190.1] ... 
> 15214 Remote delivery process 15214 started
> 15214 Connecting to xb.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.89] ... 
> 15216 Remote delivery process 15216 started
> 15216 Connecting to levis.amiwest.com [192.82.103.7] ... 
> 15217 Remote delivery process 15217 started
> 15217 Connecting to mx.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.98] ... 
> 15207 connected
> 15208 connected
> 15209 connected
> 15200 connected
> 15210 connected
> 15204 connected
> 15205 connected
> 15199   SMTP<< 220-emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:16:07 -0800 (PST)
> 15199          220-NO UCE.  Earthlink Network does not authorize the use of its computers
> 15199          220 or network equipment to deliver unsolicited electronic mail.
> 15199   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15214 connected
> 15206 connected
> 15217 connected
> 15215 connected
> 15209   SMTP<< 220 umcc.ais.org ready at Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:16:07 -0500 (EST)
> 15209   SMTP>> HELO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15213 connected
> 15216 connected
> 15198   SMTP<< 220 punt-10.mail.demon.net Server SMTP (Complaints/bugs to:  postmaster@???)
> 15198   SMTP>> HELO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15214   SMTP<< 220-rly-xb05.mx.aol.com ESMTP relay_in.9; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:16:07 -0500
> 15214          220-America Online (AOL) and its affiliated companies do not
> 15214          220-     authorize the use of its proprietary computers and computer
> 15214          220-     networks to accept, transmit, or distribute unsolicited bulk
> 15214          220      e-mail sent from the internet.
> 15214   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15212 connected
> 15199   SMTP<< 250-emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net Hello ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15199          250-8BITMIME
> 15199          250-SIZE 10485760
> 15199          250-DSN
> 15199          250-ONEX
> 15199          250-XUSR
> 15199          250 HELP
> 15199   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15209   SMTP<< 250 umcc.ais.org Hello eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15209   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???>
> 15217   SMTP<< 220 mx01.mrf.mail.rcn.net ESMTP [NO UCE] RCN Exim 3.16 #5 Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:16:07 -0500
> 15217   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15205   SMTP<< 220 mailgate2.Cadence.COM ESMTP ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:16:07 -0800 (PST)
> 15205   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15210   SMTP<< 220 mx9.mx.voyager.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.10.2/8.10.2; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:16:07 -0500 (EST)
> 15210   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15214   SMTP<< 250-rly-xb05.mx.aol.com ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com
> 15214          250 HELP
> 15214   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???>
> 15198   SMTP<< 250 Good morning, pleased to meet you
> 15198   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???>
> 15209   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???> ... Sender Okay
> 15209   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<schnars@???>
> 15217   SMTP<< 250-mx01.mrf.mail.rcn.net Hello eagle.netwrx1.com [205.254.202.114]
> 15217          250-SIZE 10485760
> 15217          250-8BITMIME
> 15217          250-EXPN
> 15217          250-PIPELINING
> 15217          250 HELP
> 15217   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15210   SMTP<< 250-mx9.mx.voyager.net Hello ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15210          250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> 15210          250-EXPN
> 15210          250-VERB
> 15210          250-8BITMIME
> 15210          250-SIZE 10000000
> 15210          250-DSN
> 15210          250-ONEX
> 15210          250-ETRN
> 15210          250-XUSR
> 15210          250 HELP
> 15210   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15199   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15199   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<tborroz@???>
> 15205   SMTP<< 250-mailgate2.Cadence.COM Hello ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15205          250-8BITMIME
> 15205          250-SIZE
> 15205          250-DSN
> 15205          250-ONEX
> 15205          250-ETRN
> 15205          250-XUSR
> 15205          250 HELP
> 15205   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15211 connected
> 15201   SMTP<< 220 smtpproxy2.mitre.org ESMTP MITRE SMTP Server; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:16:07 -0500 (EST)
> 15201   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<skyefire@???>
> 15202   SMTP<< 220 mx02.together.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:37:40 -0500 (EST)
> 15202   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15198   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15198   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<steve@???>
> 15217   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???> is syntactically correct
> 15217   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<mrvark@???>
> 15210   SMTP<< 250 2.1.0 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15210   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<sski@???>
> 15208   SMTP<< 220 gold.truman.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.1/8.9.1; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:23:16 -0600
> 15208   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15215   SMTP<< 220 buzz.sonic.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.0-CSFMD/8.8.5; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:16:11 -0800
> 15215   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15209   SMTP<< 250 <schnars> Recipient Okay.
> 15209   SMTP>> DATA
> 15199   SMTP<< 250 <tborroz@???>... Recipient ok
> 15199   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<pepin@???>
> 15201   SMTP<< 250-smtpproxy2.mitre.org Hello mail@??? [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15201          250-8BITMIME
> 15201          250-SIZE
> 15201          250-DSN
> 15201          250-ONEX
> 15201          250-XUSR
> 15201          250 HELP
> 15201   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<conslaw@???>
> 15202   SMTP<< 250-mx02.together.net Hello ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15202          250-8BITMIME
> 15202          250-SIZE
> 15202          250-DSN
> 15202          250-ONEX
> 15202          250-ETRN
> 15202          250-XUSR
> 15202          250 HELP
> 15202   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15203   SMTP<< 220 funhouse.gsfc.nasa.gov ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:16:09 -0500 (EST)
> 15203   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15217   SMTP<< 250 <mrvark@???> verified
> 15217   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<weewillywinky@???>
> 15210   SMTP<< 250 2.1.5 <sski@???>... Recipient ok
> 15210   SMTP>> DATA
> 15208   SMTP<< 250-gold.truman.edu Hello mail@??? [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15208          250-EXPN
> 15208          250-VERB
> 15208          250-8BITMIME
> 15208          250-SIZE 4000000
> 15208          250-DSN
> 15208          250-ONEX
> 15208          250-ETRN
> 15208          250-XUSR
> 15208          250 HELP
> 15208   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15209   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15209   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15215   SMTP<< 250-buzz.sonic.net Hello ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15215          250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> 15215          250-8BITMIME
> 15215          250-SIZE 15000000
> 15215          250-DSN
> 15215          250-ONEX
> 15215          250-ETRN
> 15215          250-XUSR
> 15215          250 HELP
> 15215   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15203   SMTP<< 250-funhouse.gsfc.nasa.gov Hello mail@??? [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15203          250-EXPN
> 15203          250-VERB
> 15203          250-8BITMIME
> 15203          250-SIZE 50000000
> 15203          250-DSN
> 15203          250-ONEX
> 15203          250-ETRN
> 15203          250-XUSR
> 15203          250 HELP
> 15203   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15199   SMTP<< 250 <pepin@???>... Recipient ok
> 15199   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<defcon99@???>
> 15210   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15210   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<ukdragon@???>
> 15198   SMTP<< 250 Recipient OK.
> 15198   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<spirit@???>
> 15217   SMTP<< 250 <weewillywinky@???> verified
> 15217   SMTP>> DATA
> 15213   SMTP<< 220 ridgecrest.ca.us ESMTP sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:16:08 -0800 (PST)
> 15213   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15216   SMTP<< 220 levis.amiwest.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.1; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:19:25 -0800 (PST)
> 15216   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15205   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15205   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<lou@???>
> 15201   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15201   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<mross@???>
> 15202   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15202   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<rlcraw@???>
> 15208   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15208   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<ad04@???>
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<xelex@???>
> 15217   SMTP<< 354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by itself
> 15217   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15199   SMTP<< 250 <defcon99@???>... Recipient ok
> 15199   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<jc_lockhart@???>
> 15201   SMTP<< 250 <mross@???>... Recipient ok
> 15201   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<frp@???>
> 15216   SMTP<< 250-levis.amiwest.com Hello mail@???, pleased to meet you
> 15216          250-EXPN
> 15216          250-VERB
> 15216          250-8BITMIME
> 15216          250-SIZE
> 15216          250-DSN
> 15216          250-ONEX
> 15216          250-ETRN
> 15216          250-XUSR
> 15216          250 HELP
> 15216   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15198   SMTP<< 250 Recipient OK.
> 15198   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<allyn@???>
> 15213   SMTP<< 250-ridgecrest.ca.us Hello ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15213          250-EXPN
> 15213          250-VERB
> 15213          250-8BITMIME
> 15213          250-SIZE 4000000
> 15213          250-DSN
> 15213          250-ONEX
> 15213          250-ETRN
> 15213          250-XUSR
> 15213          250 HELP
> 15213   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15202   SMTP<< 250 <rlcraw@???>... Recipient ok
> 15202   SMTP>> DATA
> 15203   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15203   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<james.d.blackwood.1@???>
> 15215   SMTP<< 250 2.1.0 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15215   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<pangaea@???>
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<pattonp@???>
> 15199   SMTP<< 250 <jc_lockhart@???>... Recipient ok
> 15199   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<scouse52@???>
> 15201   SMTP<< 250 <frp@???>... Recipient ok
> 15201   SMTP>> DATA
> 15202   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15202   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15198   SMTP<< 250 Recipient OK.
> 15198   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<cwebb@???>
> 15216   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15216   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<dave@???>
> 15203   SMTP<< 250 <james.d.blackwood.1@???>... Recipient ok
> 15203   SMTP>> DATA
> 15213   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15213   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<coyote@???>
> 15205   SMTP<< 250 <lou@???>... Recipient ok
> 15205   SMTP>> DATA
> 15215   SMTP<< 250 2.1.5 <pangaea@???>... Recipient ok
> 15215   SMTP>> DATA
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<davek511@???>
> 15208   SMTP<< 250 <ad04@???>... Recipient ok
> 15208   SMTP>> DATA
> 15199   SMTP<< 250 <scouse52@???>... Recipient ok
> 15199   SMTP>> DATA
> 15200   SMTP<< 220 relay.mod.uk PP Here - Pleased to meet you (Complaints/bugs to:  RELAY.MOD.UK MTA <postmaster@???>)
> 15200   SMTP>> HELO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15201   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15201   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15204   SMTP<< 220 eis-msg-021.jpl.nasa.gov (Mail*Hub TurboSendmail) ESMTP Service ready
> 15204   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15203   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15203   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15198   SMTP<< 250 Recipient OK.
> 15198   SMTP>> DATA
> 15215   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15215   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15205   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15205   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15216   SMTP<< 250 <dave@???>... Recipient ok
> 15216   SMTP>> DATA
> 15213   SMTP<< 250 <coyote@???>... Recipient ok
> 15213   SMTP>> DATA
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<paulmcg@???>
> 15208   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15208   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15199   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15199   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15200   SMTP<< 250 relay.mod.uk: You are bluffing - `ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com` expected
> 15200   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???>
> 15204   SMTP<< 250-eis-msg-021.jpl.nasa.gov
> 15198   SMTP<< 354 Enter Mail, end by a line with only '.'
> 15198   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15216   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15216   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15213   SMTP<< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> 15213   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<k56@???>
> 15209   SMTP<< 250 Mail accepted
> 15209   SMTP>> QUIT
>LOG: 0 MAIN
>  => schnars@??? <skunk-works-digest-outgoing@???> R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp H=umcc.ais.org [208.176.209.197]
> 15255 Remote delivery process 15255 started
> 15255 Connecting to mailin2.cadvision.com [207.228.64.39] ... 
> 15206   SMTP<< 220 outbox.photon.com ESMTP You will be askimilated
> 15206   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15200   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15200   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<cfjparish@???>
> 15204   SMTP<< 250-EXPN
> 15204          250-8BITMIME
> 15204          250-PIPELINING
> 15204          250-DSN
> 15204          250 SIZE 30000000
> 15204   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<markelp@???>
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<markfarmer@???>
> 15255 connected
> 15206   SMTP<< 250-outbox.photon.com
> 15206          250-PIPELINING
> 15206          250-SIZE 10240000
> 15206          250-ETRN
> 15206          250 8BITMIME
> 15206   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<ryb56@???>
> 15206   SMTP<< 250 Ok
> 15206   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<whw@???>
>LOG: 0 MAIN
>  Remote host wizvax.wizvax.net [199.181.141.5] closed connection after initial connection
> 15212 Connecting to mailgate.wizvax.net [199.181.141.25] ... 
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<ND4SPD24@???>
> 15202   SMTP<< 250 WAA15131 Message accepted for delivery
> 15202   SMTP>> QUIT
>LOG: 0 MAIN
>  => rlcraw@??? <skunk-works-digest-outgoing@???> R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp H=mx.together.net [209.91.0.62]
> 15258 Remote delivery process 15258 started
> 15258 Connecting to mx02.dds.nl [194.109.21.25] ... 
> 15206   SMTP<< 250 Ok
> 15206   SMTP>> DATA
> 15212 connected
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<Westcst22@???>
> 15255   SMTP<< 220 mail6.cadvision.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3/CWT/DCE; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 20:16:26 -0700
> 15255   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15258 connected
> 15206   SMTP<< 354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>
> 15206   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15214   SMTP<< 250 OK
> 15214   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<Liddicoat5@???>
> 15255   SMTP<< 250-mail6.cadvision.com Hello ip-205-254-202-114.netwrx1.com [205.254.202.114] (may be forged), pleased to meet you
> 15255          250-8BITMIME
> 15255          250-SIZE 20000000
> 15255          250-DSN
> 15255          250-ONEX
> 15255          250-ETRN
> 15255          250-XUSR
> 15255          250 HELP
> 15255   SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<owner-skunk-works-digest@???> SIZE=37861
> 15200   SMTP<< 250 Recipient OK.
> 15200   SMTP>> DATA
> 15255   SMTP<< 250 <owner-skunk-works-digest@???>... Sender ok
> 15255   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<krokomt@???>
> 15215   SMTP<< 250 2.0.0 eBR3GCu08263 Message accepted for delivery
> 15215   SMTP>> QUIT
>LOG: 0 MAIN
>  => pangaea@??? <skunk-works-digest-outgoing@???> R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp H=mail.sonic.net [209.204.190.1]
> 15270 Remote delivery process 15270 started
> 15270 Connecting to cryo-mail.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.152.19] ... 
> 15204   SMTP<< 250 sender <owner-skunk-works-digest@???> OK
> 15204   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<ted.drain@???>
> 15200   SMTP<< 354 Enter Mail, end by a line with only '.'
> 15200   SMTP>> writing message and terminating "."
> 15255   SMTP<< 250 <krokomt@???>... Recipient ok
> 15255   SMTP>> DATA
> 15204   SMTP<< 250 recipient <ted.drain@???> OK
> 15204   SMTP>> RCPT TO:<mike.mueller@???>
> 15212   SMTP<< 220 mailgate.wizvax.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.1/8.9.1; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:18:15 -0500
> 15212   SMTP>> EHLO eagle.netwrx1.com
> 15217   SMTP<< 250 OK id=14B74S-0001NH-00@???
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>We haven't discussed Star Wars, the anti-ballistic missile system,
>recently.
>
>Dick Armey is my congressman--meaning I live in his district and get to
>vote against him every two years. Last Wednesday (20 December) I sat in
>on the taping of two episodes of "McCuistion," on which Armey was a
>panelist.
>
>"McCuistion" originates here in Dallas and is syndicated on PBS.
>Locally the show comes on Sundays at 1 p.m. and 11 p.m. Each episode is
>one hour and features themes of popular interest. The two episodes
>taped last week concerned the ABM project and the Republican Revolution.
>
>I have previously worked in the aviation ordnance division on the USS
>Randolph and the USS Kitty Hawk, so I know a little about munitions. I
>have also worked on guided missile programs for Texas Instruments, so I
>know a little about the problem of hitting the target.
>
>Nearly ten years ago we all watched as Patriots battled Scuds in the
>skies over the Middle East. What a show! Incomming streaks of light in
>the sky were met with outgoing streaks of light, and when the two
>converged there was a spectacular aerial show. Later more rational
>heads informed us that not a single Scud was stopped.
>
>This makes a lot of sense, based on what I know. An incoming warhead is
>just a falling bomb. The Patriot missile is an anti-aircraft missile.
>The Patriot was designed to take out its target by exploding at or near
>the aircraft. The warhead (if it is like most anti-aircraft missiles)
>is really not the head of the missile but is a section of the missile
>tube. They usually put some guidance stuff in the nose. The "warhead"
>is a fragmentation bomb, explosive wrapped in a metal shell designed to
>break into chunks of the right size. The fragments tear through
>aircraft frames taking out control surfaces, control lines, and fuel
>lines and killing the crew. The aircraft, thus disabled, crashes and is
>unable to complete its mission. This is what the Patriot was designed
>to do. This why it did not work against the Scuds.
>
>To defeat an incoming Scud you can't just wreck the Scud missile. The
>power and control functions are already shut down, and in fact the
>warhead has already separated from the main missile body. The warhead
>is coming down. It will hit and explode if you don't explode it first.
>This the Patriot could not do. In order to explode the Scud warhead you
>need to make a direct hit on it. And maybe more.
>
>In naval warfare it is often necessary to attack armored ships. To do
>this the Navy uses armor piercing bombs. These bombs have heavy casings
>of hard metal. Only about 25% of the bomb weight is explosive. The
>bomb strikes the ship's armor plate with tremendous force and breaks
>through. A timed fuse detonates the bomb a few milliseconds after the
>initial impact. If the bomb goes of on impact it's mostly wasted.
>Therefore you need an explosive that can withstand that kind of shock
>without detonating. The Navy (in those days) used picric acid as the
>explosive in AP bombs for this reason.
>
>Likely Saddam's Scuds did not have such warheads, but it is easy to
>imagine how easy it would be to defeat the Patriot with a simple Patriot
>resistant warhead. I thought so, too, and said as much in a letter to
>the local newspaper back in 1994.
>
>Brings us back to Star Wars. The ABM has a similar problem. To defeat
>an incoming BM you have to:
>
>1. Correctly locate the incoming warhead (out of a number of possible
>decoys or out of a number of duplicate warheads).
>
>2. Make a direct hit on the warhead to detonate it (in the case of a
>conventional warhead) or close enough to wreck the nuclear warhead. Fat
>chance of actually causing the nuke to detonate.
>
>For this and other reasons many sensible heads have labeled Star Wars a
>boondoggle. History has shown this to be the case. Since about 1986 we
>have spent billions on such programs with nothing to show for our
>expense. Dick Armey wants us to spend billions more.
>
>Here's how he sells it: "We want our children to be safe" he says.
>Further, he says that he knows it can be done. How? With the modern
>technology we have there's no reason we can't do it. He points out that
>a mere child can point and click a mouse and open a Web site on the
>other side of the world. If we can do that, we can do Star Wars
>(according to Mr. Armey).
>
>During a break in the taping I had a chance to talk to some of the
>others in the audience. I felt like a whore in church. This was a
>solidly Republican herd. One person agreed with me that the most we
>could buy was something that stopped 90% of the incoming (very generous
>in my opinion). "OK, you save San Francisco, Dallas, and Des Moines,
>but you lose Chicago" I pointed out. "I can live with that" he agreed.
>"We can rebuild. This is war."
>
>I tried to reconcile such thinking with Armey's desire to "make our
>children safe." Much discussion was made by other panelists about the
>types of enemies we need to protect ourselves against. The point was
>well made that we are not battling an organized superpower like the
>former USSR. We need to protect ourselves against blackmail from
>"rogue" states such as North Korea and Iraq. Would these countries
>seriously engage the US in a "war" as my Republican acquantance
>implied? Would it really be worth losing Chicago just to put such a
>pipsqueak power in its place? Somewhere, I feel, purpose is getting
>lost.
>
>Check out the program if it airs in your area. We should get back to
>this duscussion after others have had a chance to see what Mr. Armey had
>to say on this occasion. Locally the two episodes will air on 14 and 21
>January. Also, look for me. I'm the whitehaired guy in the very blue
>shirt.
>
>John Blanton


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