I'm reading this thread carefully to decide which maillist to switch
to (and to port eVote to) one day soon. Majordomo is not good. Maybe
Majordomo 2 will be but the current model is to be avoided. It's all
there was for free when I started.
Thanks Jeffrey for your vote of confidence but I do not have it
secured. I rely on it's "approve" feature and subscription confirm
feature. The subscription confirm feature, the majordomo people tell
me, is easily hacked. That's the big hole in my computer but no one's
taken advantage of it yet. I hear there are patches around for fixing
that up.
Our big attacks came on individual's addresses and on the petition
facility. I have good security for those things now. I consider exim to
be my best security device.
I was thinking of mailman, because it is gnu-supported and because
this list runs on it. I figure they know something here!
So, thanks for this discussion. I need it to.
Marilyn Davis, Ph.D.
eVote(R) - online polling software for email lists
http://www.deliberate.com
marilyn@???
+1 650 965-7121 (USA)
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> [mailed and posted]
>
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Mustapha Mahfouz wrote:
>
> > I hope I could request information about a suitable mailing list manager
> > for exim, I noted that exim.org uses the GNU mailman (which seems to be
> > popular, Redhat switched from qmail to Postfix+mailman very recently).
> >
> > In a summary I would like to ask wether are there any special facts to
> > which I have to pay attention to when configuring a Mailing list manager,
> > for Exim, and whether there is any recommended for Exim.
>
> Majordomo 1.* is very very outdated, and lacks many valuable
> features. Although it is what I have used and am very comfortable with, I
> would not recommend it at this point. It can be run securely (Marilyn
> Davis on this list is our resident expert on securing exim/majordomo
> against very hostile attacks), and there are some features of exim which
> allow more security then would otherwise be available. See the section in
> the exim FAQ on majordomo which points to an external document.
>
> Majordomo 2 is used by some people, and is a complete redesign from the
> ground up. It's design looks very very good and is being developed by
> people with very long experience in mailing list management. It is in
> "alpha" last time a checked (two months ago) and is largely undocumented.
> Only us it if you are (a) already familiar with how mailing list managers
> work, (b) like your documentation in perl. I use majordomo because I know
> it very well. But I can't really recommend it.
>
> There is a mailing list for list managers called
>
> list-managers@???
>
> That list is a majordomo based list so if you want to subscribe send mail
> to
>
> majordomo@???
>
> with the BODY of your messages saying
>
> subscribe list-managers
>
> You might ask there. There will be a majordomo bias on that list, just
> because for historical reasons there are a lot of majordomo users on that
> list. But all are painfully aware of majordomo's shortcomings.
>
> -j
>
>
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