Re: [exim] greylisting and spf

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Vastaanottaja: Niels Dettenbach, exim-users
Aihe: Re: [exim] greylisting and spf
I've not tested high value emails processing, so it could be a different case likewise with your environment and configuring GL advantage could weigh out lack of GL support. Glad that you've raised this point, thanks for it yet I really fail still to comprehend with crucial emails first time sending attempts that from administrator point of view considered OK to be rejected for an hour or so with risk if sending mail server doesn’t handle retrying, with this being said is valid unless if a company knows the hosts it would expect emails from that is vital to its users and exempt it from grey listing then it should be resolved yet remains the issue with the unforeseeable while you’ve an advantage from keeping away bad emails perspective with drawback to potentially rejecting some unnecessarily. Mail server administrators typical challenge, we should have no complain, except if Putin still doesn’t think and admit that he should not give to those who incites him and manipulates him trying to play the ploy on him or accurately repeat what they or their parents played on Hitler with evil will to help jews with their injustice against the vulnerable minority of Palestinians and preoccupy the world with more injustices. Europe should unite, Europe should love Palestine and honour this land and its people and only owners, that gave right to all Christians and many Muslims to exist in the face of Jew Israel fascistic genocidal ethnic cleansing, burgling, invasion, ruining of the Holy Land and its entailment of exploiting European whom very SADLY died in WW2 and victimising the victims of its Evil Will. Outrageous further Ukraine craziness, since it started I’ve been praying those who manipulated it to be brought to justice. Seriously, we shouldn’t complain about this until Putin think about he most beloved hometown, that some group of people invade with their endless justifications, and does to it what those who manipulates him, are instructing him to do to Ukraine and desist, as he thinks about the innocent in his position, I pray sooner his awareness to be raised and give not the manipulative evil American who knew themselves. I’m so sick of this.

Sorry guys a rant,I couldn’t stop it, its COVID craziness was its nerve which it sit on, innocents organs destroyed and who knows if healing spirit will be let to find its way, and who lead to it, look at American activities in the world short time before it started, it’s sickening, I’m sick of American influence and Biden months ago before this craziness started, was talking out of nowhere intimidating Russian and admiring the devil of who passes away and then followed his followers Incompetent Boris Johnson and now Ukraine and Russia. To be not an unjust like the unjust, I admit, I know Boris and Biden have good will, and deep in their heart they want justice yet Jew Israel, its the problem, and the good heart can’t be sustained when terrorist who terrorise innocent Palestinian to accept robbed of their home are influencing and manipulating it, lets come to it, Jews must go back to their home countries and seek to be accepted there and stop terrorising and victimising Palestinians and stop ethnic cleansing themselves and stealing and ruining Israelites identity and terrorising Palestinian and should surrender to Justice at least after terror and hell like no other afflicted whole nation of Palestinians with for 75 years, jews must admit their crime completely, and I hope those who have the good will to come to justice terms and its oneness and give into and let the world driven by justice and towards justice away from victimising innocent Palestinian to accept injustice and away from the manipulation, ramifications to the Iranian, Uyghur, Rohingya, Ukrainian, Russian and the rest of the world. Btw, I detest to the core of it blaming anyone, but look at statistics and injustice ramification and its correlations. The millions of lives jews murdered in world war 2, particularly Japanese hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians as example, American jews were major influencers to push for this act and one jew dropped it by himself and its same cult that raged world war 2 and murdered so many germans. Please if one doesn’t know what is like to kill one innocent soul, try to consider to learn how evil its, let alone so many thousands and jews in world war 2, majority of them engaged in violence, in flocks, driven by their religion in the form of DAESH jihad, then only were detained and literally if weren't detained, were murdering people, and were violent, committed treason against their countries, ganged with foreign people, bombed and murdered and suffocated to death so many and burnt alive so many innocent families, potentially more than their population and were not held into account because of their manipulative and circumventing around justice attitude till this second, as well as American support, and also for being operating within world forces armies and exploiting its responsibilities, and trying to get away with victimising and exploiting European detained, sadly exploiting the suffer of those tortured in detainment, whom at least shouldn’t be exploited further never against innocent Palestinians and for 75 years, terrorising Palestinian, day in and day out, murdering whole nation that is started with dozens of times bigger than jews in size, with American support, now circumscribed in small land some know it as Gaza, and if fair and just assessment to be carried, maybe at least twice the amount of displaced Jews murdered of Palestinian, almost over the span of 75 years, at least 16 millions and smothered so many and terrorising till this second double the amount and stripping from having right to exist. The devil worshippers they want to victimise Russia and Ukraine and manipulate this affair to victimise and harm the innocents. Sickening, we seriously need to identify by collective voice in the world, Jew Israel as its a terrorist organisation as problem needs to be resolved and have not right to terrorise anyone to accept its injustice nor sugar coating the crime scene committing in Palestine and hold jews into account and pave way for the ones dragged against their will in this crime and murdered no innocent soul to go back to their country and bring the rest to justice, so to disallow the evil from exploiting good will as well as lying and seeking terrorist and extreme religious ideology and victimising innocent, and give American their fair chance to be set free from enslavement so we can pave way for the world to be driven by and towards justice, Seriously, GL issues its nothing.

Heart broken, sorry guys, I’m out of this, I didn’t send this to argue or turn it in disputatious discords, just hope in my heart to see terrorist, criminals no more drive the world, but good, honourable, just, righteous people who don’t justify evil like stealing innocent home nor identity of people nor manipulate COVID nor Russia and Ukraine evil and the world to be driven by justice where truly everyone have what they deserved and dare not take other people rights.

Zakaria.

> On 11 Mar 2022, at 22:15, Niels Dettenbach via Exim-users <exim-users@???> wrote:
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> Am Freitag, 11. März 2022, 13:31:22 CET schrieb Zakaria via Exim-users:
>> Yet, this is my experience so far with spam. I started my mail server setup
>> in mind to configure Greylisting, and once I came to it, I decided to drop
>> it down. I just found it unnecessary with SpamAssassin and Pyzor scanning
>> along with EXIM DNS black lists test, DANE, DKIM, SPF, DMARC and ARC
>> validation. Whenever any of these validation measures fails, I add unique
>> relevant “ could be spam " header, and use pigeonhole to rewrite subject
>> and forward it to spam folder. I get very rarely spam emails, and if I do,
>> I know what kind of failure it ended up with in spam, mostly marked spam
>> content from SA or DKIM, SPF and recently ARC verifying fails.
>
> ...for us, greylisting (with SA at SMTP time) - beside all of this mechanisms
> incl. further weighted DNSBL results - still is a important part of the
> chain, even if mainly higher volume and/or more widely known / "older" mail-
> addresses / mailboxes profit from (which get a high amount of spam).
>
> Most of these mechs only validate the "technical source", but not if it's
> spam. There is atill lot of spam (at least spam for our users) outgpoing from
> mass hosters like hotmail, gmail and Co. which provide "valid" email senders
> / connections.
>
> As typical, we lead "grey" stuff only to greylisting - with "self learning" to
> avoid further greylist delays for known white "connections" (sender/
> recipient). This typicall lead to a few more delayed emails at the beginning
> for new email users - but after time only a very small percentage of emails
> are delayed to the user thorugh the greylisting mech.
>
>
> just my .02$,
>
>
> niels.
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