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Συντάκτης: Alex Roman
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Αντικείμενο: Re: [exim] [Exim-Users] Problem setting up exim 4.80.1 with Domain Keys signing
The most spam-related issues with my legit outgoing email I had were
with Yahoo ...

IIRC from my tests which drove me insane, Yahoo seemed to check if the
From header has matching words as the From envelope (note that these
two are not one and the same) and also does similar check on the
Return-Path header. It was extremely hard to send email on-behalf-of
style. Adding Reply-To was making it worse IIRC. They also don't explain
the checks they are doing and it's close to impossible to reach them to
inquire about this in order to adjust your setup.

I just gave up on Yahoo in the end. Not that I adore Google, but I had
far less trouble with Gmail.

Exim does not directly support DomainKeys (it does DKIM) but Yahoo
checks both. There seems to be nothing wrong with your DKIM setup.

@Lena: Blacklisting entire IP blocks at first spam is a bit harsh ... or
maybe Romania has a special place in your heart.

Alex.


On 24 Jul 13 3:20 pm, Lena@??? wrote:
>> From: Alexandru Vladulescu <avladulescu@???>
>
>> we have mail service providers like Yahoo, that
>> still decide to look-up over the Domain Keys for email headers
>> signature.
>
> yahoo looks for either DomainKeys or DKIM.
>
>> The result is that my emails to them are getting marked as SPAM.
>
> Not because you sign with DKIM without DomainKeys.
> Sign up for http://feedbackloop.yahoo.net
> http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?locale=en_US&page=content&id=SLN3438
>
>> SPF check:          pass
>> DomainKeys check:   neutral
>> DKIM check:         pass

>
> That's enough signing.
>
>> SpamAssassin check: ham/
>
> If your yahooMail recipients click "this is spam" then yahoo believes
> that it is spam.
> If your yahooMail recipient reads your message in Spam folder and then
> deletes the message then you'll get feedback loop message and yahoo will
> consider that as the user's confirmation that the message was spam -
> stupid, but that's yahoo for you.
>
> I blacklist entire blocks of IP-addresses in Romania at first spam.
>