OK, thanks a lot for your hints.
I guess I will try to stick with smtp.free.fr now,
and tackle any remaining issues, should they arrive.
-Andreas
Mike Ridgers <mike@???> writes:
> Basically;
> 1. Don't use Nemesis if you can help it (AFAIK it is used and
> developed by Schlund & Partner - 1&1). I have had issues with 1&1's
> Nemesis server before as Nemesis doesn't support Linux style
> linebreaks (LF). So if the sent email message body contains them it
> ignores the linebreaks and throws a "500 line limit exceeded" error as
> the message body can then contain too many characters per line (if
> it's a long email). Your issue may be related to this or you might
> have hit another bug (or feature) with "Nemesis".
>
> 2. Yes, use the Postfix smarthost if you can. You can use any domain
> you like as your sending address when sending through a smarthost - it
> all depends on the smarthost provider's policy. Here in UK for
> instance BT won't let you email through their smtp servers with a
> domain not approved by them. So you need to call them & provide proof
> of ID & that you own the domain in question & then they will let you
> relay. It may be the same with smtp.free.fr - the only way to find out
> is to contact them & ask. Most providers allow you to relay with any
> email address as long as you are trusted in some way - i.e. you
> authenticate first or you are on one of their trusted networks.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Mike.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: exim-users-bounces+mike=ridgers.net@???
> [mailto:exim-users-bounces+mike=ridgers.net@exim.org] On Behalf Of
> Andreas Reuleaux
> Sent: 14 January 2013 05:04
> To: exim-users@???
> Subject: [exim] Could it be that my mail was filtered as spam? - seeking some advice
>
> I am on debian wheezy using exim in a smarthost configuration.
>
> For years my smart host was smpt.web.de and everything worked
> smoothly. Choosing smtp.web.de as my smart host seemed only natural
> given my web.de email address.
>
> I have moved to France meanwhile, but kept my German web.de email
> address and I really want to stick with it, after all that's the
> address by which everyone knows me. No problem so far: I can reach my
> smtp.web.de smart host from France as well.
>
> Then I discovered about a year ago, that some important emails of mine
> were silently discarded, i. e. smpt.web.de accepted them just fine,
> but somehow on their way to their destination they where lost without
> giving me any "delivery failed" message.
>
> Telnetting smtp.web.de revealed that it's running a "Nemesis ESMTP"
> server
>
> $ telnet smtp.web.de 587
> Trying 213.165.67.108...
> Connected to smtp.web.de.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 web.de (mrweb002) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready
>
> I don't really know much about this Nemesis server, and maybe I am not
> giving it the justice it deserves, but I had the idea of trying out my
> French telephone operator Free's smtp server smtp.free.fr instead, as
> it is running Postfix, a well know open source server, and I generally
> have more confidence in open source systems. Also I heard that the
> guys at free.fr are smart, and I figured they would make an effort to
> keep their system up to date, perhaps more so than the web.de guys.
>
> $ telnet smtp.free.fr 587
> Trying 212.27.48.4...
> Connected to smtp.free.fr.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 smtp1-g21.free.fr ESMTP Postfix
>
> I could/can use this smtp.free.fr server, as I a got with my free.fr
> subscription also a free.fr email account, which I don't use however,
> as I prefer to continue using my web.de address (as explained above).
>
> So what I am currently doing, is sending emails with my @web.de sender
> address through my smtp.free.fr smart host.
>
> This seems to work - not always, though.
>
> I experienced not to long ago the same issues as with my web.de smart
> host: some emails of mine were silently discarded. Another problem was
> that some emails took ages to arrive, but they finally arrived at
> least.
>
> I am not 100% sure at this point, if this was a temporary problem of
> free.fr which is fixed by now. - Of course I can just continue using
> smtp.free.fr and see if it works.
>
> My other suspicion - and my real question - is this: maybe some email
> servers on the Internet inspect my emails and sort them out as spam as
> my sender address doesn't match my smarthost.
>
> To be clear: smtp.free.fr *does* accept my @web.de emails, this
> sorting out / discarding must happen somewhere later, either within
> free.fr without telling me, or later on the way to their destination.
>
> Should I expected my emails to arrive at its final destination once
> smtp.free.fr has accepted them (and it's free.fr's responsibility to
> convince other servers that it's not spam), or is my configuration
> just so obviously lousy, that other smtp servers will consider my mail
> as spam.
>
> Can I configure my exim maybe to demand some additional status
> information, say some notification from every hop my email takes?
>
> Any advice is welcome.
>
> -Andreas
>
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