Re: [exim] Bulk Outbound Performance

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Tárgy: Re: [exim] Bulk Outbound Performance
Am 04.09.2012 23:58, schrieb Phil Pennock:
> The simple act of sending large quantities of mail does not make a
> site a spammer.


i agree to the point, that i.e. google or facebook do sent millions of
mails which are not spam and should not be called spammer.
but .. they don't sent it from one host, they use clusters.

I believe, that what we all call spammers are most times botnetworks or
single hacked servers which are abused to send spam.
I had several hacks where the attackers exploited a wordpress (etc.) ,
installed theire own spamming software, and used it to flood the world
with unwanted mailspam.

Those guys need a software like the one this thread started with. Even
facebook with his now 900+ million accounts ( which got set to use fb
mailadresses lately ) will place more servers which run on half capacity
, than using half the amount of servers at full capacity, because the
risks are to high.

What i refer to as spammers ( s.a. ) would do the opposite. get as much
mails through as you can until it got shutdown.

Ron wrote:

But as you rightly point out, bulk email in itself is not spam. Facebook
send bulk, eBay send bulk, Amazon send bulk etc. Whilst it can be argued
that some of this is irritating and spam like, permission based bulk
emailing is a fact of life. In fact this very mailing list is bulk by
nature.


you know "C & A" ? they sent spam each day and call it newsletter ;) As
i removed my address from the list, they already had a choice to
selected why you left, which covered the "too much mails" spam reason .
So it can be legal bulk mailing, good intented and spam at the same
time. The frontier is very liquid as it's a personal matter to decide if
you get abused by the mailing or not.

[If someone from c&a steps over this, thats why i call it spam: no news,
the same information in different forms over and over again and most of
the time : useless]

Marius