Re: [exim] Missing Web Site & Link Request

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Auteur: Always Learning
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Aan: Exim Users
Onderwerp: Re: [exim] Missing Web Site & Link Request

Hi Peter & Jethro,

> RFC2919


Page 1:

"March 2001"

Comment: It needs overhauling to ensure it relates to 2010.

Page 2:

"  The list identifier will, in most cases, appear like a host name
    in a domain of the list owner.  In other words, the domain name
    system is used to delegate namespace authority for list identifiers
    just as it has been used to distribute that authority for other
    internet resources."


Comment: Its a load of bollocks by people uncertain about the then
computer world. Its meaningless waffle in today's world.

Why does Exim Users mailing list in 2010 need an internal email header
identifier ? I filter on the Subject line's {exim} and it works well
for me.

Just because people have always used a horse and cart to move their
shopping is it wise to reject all alternative forms of transport ?

" Using the domain name system as a basis for the list identifier
namespace is intended to leverage an existing authority structure
into a new area of application. By using the domain name system to
delegate list identifier namespace authority, it becomes instantly
clear who has the right to create a particular list identifier, and
separates the list identifier from any particular delivery host or
mechanism. Only the rights-holder of a domain or subdomain has the
authority to create list identifiers in the namespace of that domain.
For example, only the rights-holder to the "acm.org" domain has the
authority to create list identifiers in "acm.org" domain."

Comment: Rights and Authority do not apply in that context to today's
Exim users mailing list.

In today's world someone creates a mailing list. One can use an existing
application or create one's own (its a simple exercise). People join
and participate in mailing list as of choice. The owner has the ability
to run, close, restrict access and choose whatever delivery system they
wish.

Anyone can create a mailing list and call it news.exim.org or other name
ending with exim.org. They certainly don't need authority or rights to
do that. Whether anyone would bother to subscribe is doubtful.

So where do the airy fairy rights and authority descend onto the Exim
mailing list and who is going around the world looking for occurrences
of a mailing list that internally calls itself exim-fans.exim.org but
externally uses the name mta-users@??? ?

Request For Comments number 2,919 was created in a bygone age when
people genuinely were still exploring the possibilities of Internet /
networked enabled computing and some were control freaks who wanted to
retain power over the abilities and choices available to others. Don't
forget Bill Gates pronounced in circa 1997? that the Internet was an
irrelevance.

Since then, in just 9 years, people's knowledge and use of the Internet
has improved and simplified. Users have been mainly liberated and today
enjoy freedoms they could have never anticipated twenty or even 10 years
ago.

My fundamental point is computer systems don't need unnecessary crap,
waffle, pseudo organisation or inefficient cumbersome baggage. Sweep
away the non-longer required and enjoy the genuine freedom delivered by
computers.

Regards,

Paul.

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