Re: [exim] How to not reply to bad mail

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Auteur: Rick Duval
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À: Dan_Mitton
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Sujet: Re: [exim] How to not reply to bad mail
Ok, I think I was mistaken in where the denial message was actually generated.

If I understand you guys correctly, my server give the 550 to the
delivering server and if it's a spammer hes just going to ignore it
and move on. If its a legitimate email server THAT server is the one
generating the email back to ITS sender notifying them of the error.

Is that right?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:55 PM, <Dan_Mitton@???> wrote:
> Where are your accept and deny statements? If they are in the RCPT ACL,
> that should return a 550 error code for each failed recipient, rather then
> accepting the email and generating bounce messages from within a router.
>
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> But my server gets thousands of messages to non-existent local_parts
> and some spammers send them all from some poor guys address (I know
> I've been on the victim side of that where someone is spamming and
> using my address in the from header).
>
> I'm not only concerned that I'll be flooding that server with rejected
> emails but also that my server could end up blacklisted because of the
> potential flood of replies generated.
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Kjetil Torgrim Homme
> <kjetilho@???> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 17:24 -0500, Rick Duval wrote:
>>> I now have a lookup that accepts emails only for addresses that are in
>>> the database.
>>>
>>> accept   condition = ${lookup mysql{SELECT count(*) from addresses \
>>>                       WHERE active AND domain='${quote_mysql:$domain}'
> \
>>>                       AND local_part='${quote_mysql:$local_part}'}}

>>>
>>> deny
>>>
>>> It works great but I don't want to contribute to backscatter by
>>> sending denial messages back to the sender everytime an address is
>>> rejected. Right now it sends out and email like:
>>>
>>> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<bob@???>:
>>>     host duvals.ca [74.51.38.171]: 550 5.1.1 <bob@???>:
>>>     Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table

>>>
>>> Can I turn that off and just not have it reply at all?
>>
>> well, you can blackhole the message, but your current method is the
>> recommended way of setting it up. if someone mistypes an address, say
>> "bpb@???", you will typically want him to know about it so that he
>> can resend it using the correct address.
>>
>> you won't be contributing to backscatter unless someone forwards e-mail
>> to you -- and typoes in forwarding targets should definitely be
>> reported.
>>
>> it's a bit different if your denial is due to a SpamAssassin score or
>> something like that -- then the forwarding system may have more lax spam
>> filtering than your system, but it's the forwarding's system which will
>> be spreading backscatter. even here, it's not really your fault.
>>
>> --
>> regards,          | Redpill  _
>> Kjetil T. Homme   | Linpro  (_)

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