Re: [exim] noreplys...

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Autor: John Doe
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To: exim-users
Betreff: Re: [exim] noreplys...
----- Original Message ----

> From: W B Hacker <wbh@???>
> To: exim-users@???
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:57:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [exim] noreplys...
>
> Oliver von Bueren wrote:
>
> > A clean way without any risk is probably not possible. If you have a
> > list of members and only inform them if they send a message to the
> > noreply@ address, this reduces the risk quite a lot. But then why would
> > you want to do that if you can limit the senders which can send you mail
> > to that email address then anyway? It only annoys to do it through a web
> > page and not just use regular email to get in contact with a company one
> > does business with anyway.
> >
>
> A 'reasonably clean' way - presuming one is already running a Mailing
> List Manager, is to establish a specialized internal list with at least
> your 'responsible party' as a member, and at most, a team of several
> folks, such as sales or helpdesk staff.
>
> IF the 'main' list(s) are set closed, optionally 'no post' (outbound
> only), AND the messages show the 'internal' list address as the from and
> reply-to, AND the internal list allows members of the main list(s) to
> post to it...
>
> THEN you'll have a valid address to the smtp world, YET handle any
> restrictions (such as 'must be a member of ..' within your MLM, rahter
> than askign Exim to make the choices.
>
> Not a great deal more work can insure that a closed-post list is not
> abused for backscatter bouncing of spam.
>
> As always, there should also be a working postmaster@ for each domain,
> but the above trick will at least separate membership traffic into a
> separately managed category, making it easier to keep the member on-side.
>
> > To implement such a solution, you'd probably have to build some ACL for
> > the RCPT part to only accept messages to that address from a list of
> > given sender addresses and then implement the autoreply. For some
> > examples of autoreply check out this faq wiki entry:
> > http://wiki.exim.org/EximAutoReply
> >
> > For the ACL in the acl_smtp_rcpt part you could start with something
> > like this... (not tested!)
> >
> >    deny    message      = This address can only be used by registered 
> > members.
> >            recipients   = noreply@???
> >            senders      = ! /list/to/addresses

> >
> > This causes a message sent to noreply@??? not coming from an
> > address listed in the file (one address per line) to be rejected with
> > the given reason.
> >
>
> .. essentially duplicating what the MLM (as above) can do, and arguably
> earlier in the process and more efficiently.
>
> HOWEVER - any MLM still has a lage set of other handling options, many
> of them menu/box-tick configurable. Chief among these is simply the
> management of subscribe+confirm and unsubscribe properly, auto-pruning
> members who cannot be reached after 'n' attempts over 't' time, etc.
>
> Well-known behaviour patterns, ease of admin, and active admin/developer
> groups are good reasons to use an MLM rather than reinvent one within Exim.
>
> YMMV,
>
> Bill Hacker
>
> > This is not fool prof either, as the sender address can always be forged.
> >
> > Oliver


Thanks to both of you.
I wonder if it would be possible to sign a part of the email in order to verify that the reply is an authentic one...
We will have to spend some time on the subject I guess...

Thx again,
JD