Re: [exim] Greylisting - using Exim new features - ratelimit…

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Autor: Marc Perkel
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To: Richard Clayton
CC: exim-users
Betreff: Re: [exim] Greylisting - using Exim new features - ratelimit with noupdate


Richard Clayton wrote:
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> In message <46939896.20007@???>, Marc Perkel <marc@???>
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>> What I also want to do is have several fake higher IPs that always
>> return defer but count as penalty events wiping out the good karma data
>> and making the IP start over.
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> So whenever there is a route flap you penalise everyone... ah well, it's
> your email, your decisions :(
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Yes - for 5 minutes.

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>> Good email will always try twice.
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> Except when it doesn't, but not worth labouring that again.
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Except is actually does.
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>> Spambots don't.
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> I now regularly see spambots showing up in logs with two connection
> attempts a little while apart -- I expect they figure that the worst
> that can happen is that two emails get delivered :) and it means that
> they don't need to save "state"
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With this system the connections have to be in the right order. Lowest
numberd MX must be touched first.
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>> So it passes 100% of
>> your good email and kills 90% of your spam.
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> Do you actually have data for this "100%" (or for that matter for the
> 90%) or are you just guessing that this is what it would be? I ask as
> someone who actually publishes data about email
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I don't publish my data. However if I were losing email then people
would be screaming. The 90% is an estimate for what most people van
expect. My servers it's more like 99% but I'm a spam filtering company
and my customers tend to have more than an average amount of spam.

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.         Benjamin Franklin

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Something we agree on. :)