Please take this elsewhere. The exim list isn't the
place for it.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007, Marc Perkel wrote:
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:13:52 -0700
> From: Marc Perkel <marc@???>
> To: Johann Steigenberger <j.steigenberger@???>
> Cc: exim-users@???
> Subject: Re: [exim] UCEPROTECT, APEWS and the truth about Marc Perkel
>
>
>
> Johann Steigenberger wrote:
> >
> > 2. UCEPROTECT lists for SAV because it is abusive.
> >
> >
>
> Yep - that's what I've been trying to tell people and he just admitted.
> If you use the Sender Address Verification features of Exim then
> UCEProtect will blacklist you as a spammer. So he admits what I've been
> warning you about.
>
> This raises a bigger question. Should people who advertise blacklists
> that are supposed to block spammer be used for other reasons other than
> blocking spammers? As everyone knows including Johann I run a spam
> filtering business. So if you are running a blacklist and you know you
> are blacklisting the IP addresses of your competitors knowing they
> aren't spammers, what does that say about you.
>
> UCEProtect also charges money to remove false positive from it's list.
>
> They also deliberately listed all my servers including dummy IP MX
> records I use that have never had a computer on them. So if he's going
> to list me manually on his black lists then he has no standing to
> complain when someone does the same to him.
>
> Mr. Johann Steigenberger is little more than a bully who is using his
> blacklist to bully Exim users so that you won't use SAV. Some people
> back down from bullies and some don't. Generally I might ignore his
> message but his blacklist affects all of us and as he has said, if he
> doesn't like the way you filter spam his going to list you on his blacklist.
>
> I also believe that APEWS is just a stealth copy of his own lists as
> they the exactly the same positions on listing Exim users who use SAV. I
> recognize the same arrogance in their policies. The are also some
> strange secret society and as with UCEProtect, if you are wrongly listed
> you can't get removed.
>
> Ultimately when people who add spam filtering services to their block
> list as spammers then the spammers win. And if we give into bully
> tactics then the bullies win. SAV is very effective in blocking spam
> especially the way Exim implements it and it is up to us to choose to
> use it if we want and not up to Mr. Steigenberger to make that decision
> for you.
>
>
> Marc Perkel
> Junk Email Filter dot com
>
>
>
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