Re: [exim] OT(?): 1und1 (Kundenserver) using unusable Envelo…

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Συντάκτης: Heiko Schlittermann
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Προς: exim-users
Αντικείμενο: Re: [exim] OT(?): 1und1 (Kundenserver) using unusable Envelope-From?
Dave Lugo <dlugo@???> (Di 21 Nov 2006 15:38:45 CET):
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> >
> > But what I understand from SRS is, that (for some limited period of
> > time, mostly at least some days) they should expect bounces for the
> > SRC-generated address.
> >
> > Or did I miss some important point?
> >
>
> Yes, BATV.
> Why would someone accept a bounce if they never send the original
> email?


Ok, if it's done in a real-time manner you're right: As soon as the
delivery to the next hop isn't completed there cannot be a bounce from
the next hop. And my callback starts before their message is delivered
to my systems. But they do not even accept a a bounce after successful
delivery...


    Sender                    next HOP

    
    MAIL FROM:<SR0=....@xyz.de> --->


                <---- establishes sender verify
                connection


                This *could* fail, because the above
                transaction is not completed yet.




    Sender                    next HOP


    MAIL FROM:<SR0-....
    RCPT TO:....
    DATA:....           --->
    .


                <---- OK mailaccepted


                NOW(!) at least the <SR0=...) should be verifyable
                or should accept bounces.



But: It's quite risky to rely on having some database updated just in
the moment the transaction completes, since receiving the other sides OK
and getting a bounce can be almost the same moment and can be in a race
with updating the database.

And - why should somebody use a sender that is not verifyable during the
transaction? I understand the limited validity (in time) of the used
sender address. But from my POV it should(!) be valid already as soon
as it is used.


    Best regards from Dresden
    Viele Grüße aus Dresden
    Heiko Schlittermann
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