Hi
I understand all your points and they are all very valid
however should it be the case that someone be completely blocked purely on
the basis of a dynamic IP ?
Certainly mark it as suspect.
even put it in a spam folder.
that way the recipient can stick it through your BAYES and learn it as spam
or ham as required.
I just think it is a little draconian to block purely because of one suspect
attribute.
To use your analogy of the airport
a certain profile of person may raise more suspicion than another and may be
more closely checked through security.
Having that profile does not stop that person getting on the plane unless
the closer checks reveal other attributes that raise suspicion.
Imagine if they said you could not fly because you are Asian, Muslim or have
a long beard !
That would be crazy
No they just look a little closer at you
An Irish friend of mine called Dominick McGlinchey (the same name as the
"most wanted Irish terrorist")
would always get questioned and body searched going through Heathrow but he
always got on the plane !
Hill Ruyter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Eiloart" <iane@???>
To: "Hill Ruyter" <hill@???>; <exim-users@???>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [exim] SORBS
>
>
> --On 9 November 2006 20:44:38 +0000 Hill Ruyter <hill@???> wrote:
>
>> But does that really mean I should not be allowed to have a mail server
>> ?
>> or rather does that mean I should therefore be classed as a second class
>> SMTP Citizen
>> because I have struck a particular deal with my ISP ?
>
> Well, being a nice guy doesn't let you get past airport security checks,
> and doesn't exempt you from bans on carrying dangerous items.
>
> Similarly, being a nice guy doesn't get you past RBL checks that are
> hugely
> successful in blocking spam. These days, you just have to accept that you
> can't use a dynamic IP address for sending email. To do so, you'd either
> have to convince the maintainer of a list of dynamic IP addresses, that
> the
> list should be incomplete. Or, you have to convince everyone that you
> might
> ever want to send email to, to whitelist you. Some sites don't do
> whitelisting - heck, why would I whitelist an IP address that could change
> ownership overnight! Even if, by some extraordinary effort, you were able
> to achieve this, then you'd have to make that extraordinary effort again
> whenever your IP address changed.
>
>>
>> The majority of my mail seems to get where it is going
>> But on the other hand I would like to have everything nice and clean and
>> tidy so I will be in discussion with my ISP
>>
>> Hill
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marc Sherman" <msherman@???>
>> To: <exim-users@???>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [exim] SORBS
>>
>>
>>> Hill Ruyter wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> That is the thing
>>>> I am a business customer but I am trialling their ADSL2+ service
>>>> this has some limitations i.e. no fixed addresses yet
>>>>
>>>> but I get the benefit of high bandwidth at 512k prices ;)
>>>
>>> That's between you and the ISP, really. If they're not giving you a
>>> static IP on the service, then it isn't really a business service
>>> they're offering you.
>>>
>>> - Marc
>>>
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