Re: [exim] Exim has a bad queue handling?

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Συντάκτης: Zbigniew Szalbot
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Αντικείμενο: Re: [exim] Exim has a bad queue handling?

Somehow as a follow-up on this discussion, I notice that today Yahoo!
started to 451 messages destined to their servers deffering them for some
time.

2006-10-26 12:47:31 1Gd2Mh-000I76-Gz SMTP error from remote mail server
after end of data: host mx1.mail.yahoo.com [67.28.113.73]: 451 Message
temporarily deferred - [190]
2006-10-26 12:47:33 1Gd2Mh-000I76-Gz SMTP error from remote mail server
after end of data: host mx1.mail.yahoo.com [4.79.181.14]: 451 Message
temporarily deferred - [190]
2006-10-26 12:47:34 1Gd2Mh-000I76-Gz SMTP error from remote mail server
after end of data: host mx1.mail.yahoo.com [67.28.113.19]: 451 Message
temporarily deferred - [190]
2006-10-26 12:47:35 1Gd2Mh-000I76-Gz SMTP error from remote mail server
after end of data: host mx3.mail.yahoo.com [67.28.113.71]: 451 Message
temporarily deferred - [190]
2006-10-26 12:47:37 1Gd2Mh-000I76-Gz SMTP error from remote mail server
after end of data: host mx3.mail.yahoo.com [4.79.181.134]: 451 Message
temporarily deferred - [190]
2006-10-26 12:47:38 1Gd2Mh-000I76-Gz == SOME_EMAIL@??? R=dnslookup
T=remote_smtp defer (-46): SMTP error from remote mail server after end of
data: host mta-v1.mail.vip.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.250]: 451 Message
temporarily deferred

What I am interested in is knowing why woud exim retry the same message
every few seconds? Then it tries the next one, and so on. I thought it
would try once, got the deferred status and wait a bit before trying
again? I run exim with qq15m option.

Thanks for your suggestions!

Zbyszek

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Peter Bowyer wrote:

> On 21/10/06, Jörg Sommer <joerg@???> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> on a private mailing list, someone raised the claim Exim has a bad queue
>> handling and relies on delivering the mail in the first attempt. The
>> discussion was about greylisting and "using" the queue of the remote site.
>
> Is there a more detailed explanation of that problem?
>
> Philip often states that Exim's delivery model was designed for an
> always-connected situation where most of the mail is deliverable on
> the first attempt. There was certainly no concept of business-as-usual
> deliberate deferral (of which greylisting is an example) around then.
>
> It's not trivial to tune Exim's retry mechanism to optimize delivery
> under greylisting I guess.
>
>> Speaking accross the board, is it true that Exim has bad (it need more
>> resources) queue handling? For Exim on the sender site, is greylisting a
>> problem?
>
> Resources in what sense?
>
> Peter
>
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