Re: [exim] Brain Teaser - how would you do this?

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Marc Perkel wrote:

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> W B Hacker wrote:
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>> Marc Perkel wrote:
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>> *trimmed*
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>> > the email address
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>>> I need to verify isn't either the sender or the recipient. I need to
>>> verify and arbetrary address that I generate to see if it exists
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>> Pardon my ignorance, but if you are the one who 'generates' it and it
>> is truly 'arbitrary' then WOGGE would you *expect* it to 'exist'?
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>> Or, perhaps backing into it, why 'generate' an address, known to be
>> 'arbitrary', or otherwise, if the goal is to insure delivery?
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>> Would it not be more reasonable to instruct / assist clients to have a
>> 'quarantine' account or folder with characteristics specified in
>> advance, then drop traffic on the floor if they don't comply?
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>> It is probable spam we are talking about, is it not?
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>> How much engineering can that justify vs stuffing **SPAM?** into a
>> header???
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>> Or is your 'service' falsing on you too often? ;-)
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>> Bill
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> I have several levels of spam classification. Low scoring spam I tag and
> pass on. Higher scoring spam I bounce or blackhole. Or sometimes I do
> direct folder deliver of different grades of spam.
>


Umhh ... 'grades' of spam. Sounds like archaeo-scatology. ;-)

Have you not observed a non-linear distribution, with a
pronounced 'gap' between might-be, and sure-as-heck-is?

Maybe I have less patience, but I just ignore scores under 2.0,
alter the subject to include **SPAM* ... (often it is not)
between 2.0 and 3.4, and refuse anything over 3.4 / 3.5 (nearly
always it IS).

Above 3.5, we see maybe one 'false positive' a week score 4.3 to
7, nearly always of yahoo origin forwarded by a broken OE
client, so rather easily managed.

Most of the rest scores in the teens, twenties, and up.

Mind - I have many of SA's tests either customized or turned
off, which offsets the scores by about 2 or 3 points, but is faster.

That usually puts paid to the 10% or so that firewall, local
blacklist, and Exim generic protocol & DNS checks haven't
already discarded.

Can't see much point in pushing spam about from one place to
another, though for the best part of two years we fake-rejected
and archived thousands of messages for analysis.

It was worth the effort.

YMMV,

Bill