Hi again,
new condition - same problem:
1) I've removed the SPF records for kormar.net (had a TTL of 43200).
2) I've added the 'control = submission' to my RCPT ACL (as suggested
below).
3) My Outlook 2000 is configured to use @kormar.net with POP, and @kormar.de
with IMAP.
4) Using only Outlook 2000 I sent 2 identical test messages to Hotmail (from
a remote location) - the @kormar.net is sorted in the "Junk E-Mail" folder,
while the @kormar.de is placed in the Inbox
5) I have not yet changed anything concerning my SpamA configuration (not
sure how to, yet).
6) I added PTR records for kormar.net (and mail.kormar.net) at the same time
I added SPR records) which I do not have for kormar.de.
Message recieved by Hotmail from @kormar.net and put in "Junk E-Mail"
folder -
X-Message-Status: n
X-SID-PRA: robcat@???
X-SID-Result: TempError
X-Message-Info: 6sSXyD95QpUNtxvHcAXofdsXs5rvG5FONnG8cPA5JJc=
Received: from mail.kormar.net ([217.91.111.75]) by mc2-f25.hotmail.com with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:40:38 -0800
Received: from p508c8452.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([80.140.132.82] helo=tiger)
by mail.kormar.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128)
(Exim 4.54)
id 1EayQe-0002fJ-Rz
for cates58@???; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:40:37 +0100
Reply-To: <robert@???>
From: "Robert Cates" <robert@???>
To: "Cates, Robert" <cates58@???>
Subject: test message - kormar.net
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:40:45 +0100
Message-ID: <CCEEKBJEKKLABGFGILIKMEEGEEAA.robert@???>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670
Importance: Normal
Sender: robcat@???
X-Spam_score: 0.0
X-Spam_score_int: 0
X-Spam_bar: /
X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system
"mail.kormar.net", has
identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email. If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.
Content preview: This is just a test message. Me [...]
Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required)
pts rule name description
---- ---------------------- -----------------------------------------------
---
Return-Path: robcat@???
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2005 16:40:38.0883 (UTC)
FILETIME=[D0384330:01C5E7A7]
This is just a test message.
Me
Message recieved by Hotmail from @kormar.de and put in "Inbox" folder -
X-Message-Status: n
X-SID-PRA: robcat@???
X-SID-Result: TempError
X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jE+TP5Usj7/qEoFH30qKxME0eV5o8GHO48=
Received: from mail.kormar.net ([217.91.111.75]) by mc7-f40.hotmail.com with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:41:19 -0800
Received: from p508c8452.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([80.140.132.82] helo=tiger)
by mail.kormar.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128)
(Exim 4.54)
id 1EayRK-0002fP-HC
for cates58@???; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:41:19 +0100
Reply-To: <robert@???>
From: "Robert Cates" <robert@???>
To: "Cates, Robert" <cates58@???>
Subject: test message - kormar.de
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:41:27 +0100
Message-ID: <CCEEKBJEKKLABGFGILIKOEEGEEAA.robert@???>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670
Importance: Normal
Sender: robcat@???
X-Spam_score: 0.0
X-Spam_score_int: 0
X-Spam_bar: /
X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system
"mail.kormar.net", has
identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email. If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.
Content preview: This is just another test message. Me [...]
Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required)
pts rule name description
---- ---------------------- -----------------------------------------------
---
Return-Path: robcat@???
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2005 16:41:20.0309 (UTC)
FILETIME=[E8E95E50:01C5E7A7]
This is just another test message.
Me
Now this seems to me to have nothing to do with any differences between
MS/Outlook and Linux/T-bird, which is what I first suspected. I'm still
puzzled. Does somebody know enough to check if my PTR records for
kormar.net are correct, or even needed?
If you can provide any more help I'd appreciate it!
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: exim-users-bounces@??? [
mailto:exim-users-bounces@exim.org]On
Behalf Of Marc Sherman
Sent: Samstag, 12. November 2005 15:21
To: exim-users@???
Subject: Re: [exim] Unknown Sender
Robert Cates wrote:
>
> I didn't setup an SPF for kormar.net until after I noticed this
> happening; thinking that would help.
You really should have mentioned that before we wasted our time on it.
> Why would I remove the SPF when it seems more and more ESPs
> (especially the big ones) are using it, at least that's what it seems
> to me.
http://david.woodhou.se/why-not-spf.html
Robert Cates wrote:
>
> OK, it looks like I need to tweak my SpamA configuration to work on
> only incoming mail (which is what I thought I had), but how do I
> configure Exim (4.54) submission mode for my authenticated and local
> submissions?
In your RCPT ACL, check any accept clauses that are specific to
authenticated or local submission. In the default config, these are:
at the top...
accept hosts = :
and then near the bottom...
accept hosts = +relay_from_hosts
accept authenticated = *
To each of these accept clauses (but none of the others, which accept
mail from remote hosts for local destinations), add:
control = submission
For more info:
http://exim.org/exim-html-4.50/doc/html/spec_39.html#IX2485
- Marc
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