[exim] Debian as a 'Special Case' for Exim

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Autor: Bill Hacker
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A: exim-users
Assumptes vells: Re: Bug#276126: [exim] allow headers_remove|add options to be given multiple times
Assumpte: [exim] Debian as a 'Special Case' for Exim
Marc Haber wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 09:44:52AM +0000, Philip Hazel wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Marc Haber wrote:


*SNIP*

>
> I am pretty well aware that Debian is unpopular with exim upstream for
> shipping ancient versions and for using a non-standard configuration
> scheme since we need to be runnable out of the box.


*SNIP*

Exim, from generic tarball (three or four boxen now on the snapshot),
ports, or pkgsrc is 'runnable out of the box' on the *BSD's (including
newbie DragonFlyBSD)
with nothing more than:

Outbound:

- Having one or more non-root shell accounts.

and/or

- Having a valid email address for 'root' in '/etc/aliases' - which gets
the chron'ed daily reports off-box...

Inbound:

Copying /usr/local/etc/exim/configure.default to
/usr/local/etc/exim/configure (which could be added to the makefile).
The defaults are sane enough for basic messaging.

and, of course, starting the daemon....

- at which point, providing the box has a valid <domain>.<tld>, (at
least) all shell account holders in /etc/master.passwd
have both-way mail.

Neither OS/2's Postfix (AKA 'sendmail.exe') nor Mac OS X's Postfix do
that - nor should they, unbidden.
Too many workstations think they are 'servers' and should be running
only MUA's, not MTA's.

Setting up for virtual hosting, non-shell holders, providing POP, IMAP,
Webmail, etc. requires more work of some kind on *any* platform.

So how and why is Debian so different from the *BSD's (as a server OR
workstation) or OS X (as a workstation) - or other Linuxes, even,

...that is has to use stale Exim releases, and/or non-standard
configurations/toolsets to be 'runnable out of the box'?

Debian may be different from Red Flag, Slackware, Knoppix, Morphix, or
Red Hat,

- but 'runnable out of the box' does not compute as a rationale for
breaking something.

YOMD.

Bill Hacker