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Author: Bill Hacker
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Subject: Re: AW: [Exim] yahoo.com makes callout senderverify unusable!?
Matthias Lewandowski wrote:

> I can confirm this
>
> from my rejectlog:
> 2003-10-11 03:33:31 H=pcp02665442pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net [68.49.23.108]
> sender verify fail for <ebae@???>: response to "RCPT
> TO:<ebae@???>" from mx1.mail.yahoo.com [64.156.215.6] was: 553 VS10-RT
> Possible forgery or deactivated due to abuse (#5.1.1)
> 2003-10-11 03:33:31 H=pcp02665442pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net [68.49.23.108]
> F=<ebae@???> rejected RCPT <m.mackensen@???>: Sender verify failed
>
> But now it seems that callouts are very ineffective (for yahoo.com).
>
> Maybe I should deny all yahoo.com mails...it's 99.99% (maybe more) SPAM.
>
> Or is there a better solution?


Yes. Also deny all 'hotmail' mails, and in both directions.

I forget whether it was 2.6 million or 2.6 *billion* spam nessages *per
day* that those two entities combined recently 'fessed up to transiting.
T'was in an article I've lost the URL to...

And <whichever> number, it does not include forgeries, which could be an
even larger count!

"BFBI" maybe approach maybe, but it sure helps... I'd IPFW it to keep
the load off the MTA, but they use too many (legitimate) IP's to track
reliably.....

JMTCW, YOMD

Bill Hacker

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>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: Andreas Metzler [mailto:eximusers@downhill.at.eu.org]
>>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 11:49
>>An: exim-users@???
>>Betreff: Re: [Exim] yahoo.com makes callout senderverify unusable!?
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>>On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:29:03AM +0100, Matthias Lewandowski wrote:
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>>>the last days I recognized a lot of frozen bounces
>>>to yahoo.com addresses.
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>>[...]
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>>>So what are the yahoo-MTAs doing? Accept every null-sender
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>>mail, making
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>>>callouts impossible?
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>>[...]
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>>They usually simply reject after DATA instead of after RCPT TO, so
>>callouts generally don't work. However if a yahoo account is misused
>>for spamming and they start getting $bignumber of bounces, they reject
>>_this_ account after RCPT TO, so yahoo-callouts are not totally
>>useless.
>>                  cu andreas

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