Re: [Exim] MX without A allowed by which RFC's?

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Autor: Willie Viljoen
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Para: jpdalbec, Tony Finch
CC: exim-users
Assunto: Re: [Exim] MX without A allowed by which RFC's?
It's actually quite simple, this is allowed:

example.com.        IN MX 10    mail.example.com.
$ORIGIN example.com.
mail                        IN A        10.5.2.69


This is not allowed:
example.com.        IN MX 10    mail.example.com
example.com.        IN A        10.5.2.69
$ORIGIN example.com.
mail                       IN CNAME    example.com


This is not allowed either:
example.com         IN MX 10    10.5.2.69


Thus, a domain may have an MX record without having an A record for the zone
itself, but, the MX record must point to a host, and that host must have an
A record. In orther words, in extremely odd set-ups, this is also allowed:

example.com.        IN A    10.5.2.69
example.com.        IN MX 10    example.com.


This would work, because example.com has an A record, and is thus,
considered a host, instead of a zone. Any host (with an A record) may act as
an MX for any host or any zone.

Infact, you could have an MX for a non-existant host, though stupid, it is
legal:

$ORIGIN example.com.
foo    IN MX 10    mail
mail    IN A    10.5.2.69


However, in order to comply with most registrar's standards, ie, domains
must have an MX for the entire zone, this would probably be more correct:

$ORIGIN example.com.
@    IN MX 10    mail
foo    IN MX 10    mail
mail    IN A    10.5.2.69


In this example, example.com and foo.example.com have no A records, but MX
records pointing to mail.example.com, which has an A record, and can thus be
an MX for the zone and the non-existant host foo.example.com.

You could even do this:

$ORIGIN example.com.
@    IN MX 10   mail
*    IN MX 10   mail
mail    IN A    10.5.2.69


In this case, mail for both example.com, which has no A record, and any host
or subdomain under example.com, even non-existant, will be handled by
mail.example.com, which must ofcourse have the A record.

Will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Finch" <dot@???>
To: <jpdalbec@???>
Cc: <exim-users@???>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Exim] MX without A allowed by which RFC's?


> John Dalbec <jpdalbec@???> wrote:
> >What RFC allows an MX record (example.com -> mail.example.com say) to

exist
> >without an A record for example.com existing?
>
> RFC 1123 says "With the advent of the domain system and of mail routing
> using mail-exchange (MX) resource records, implementors should now think
> of delivering mail to a user at a domain, which may or may not be a
> particular host."
>
> Tony.
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OCCASIONALLY
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MODERATE OR
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>
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