Re: [Exim] inconsistent defer message

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Author: Matthias Waffenschmidt
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To: exim-users
Subject: Re: [Exim] inconsistent defer message
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:34:15PM +0100, Philip Hazel wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Matthias Waffenschmidt wrote:
>
> > I've read that part, but the message that I get as part of the SMTP
> > response ('Temporary local problem - please try later') is not
> > specified as message in any ACL I use. Where does this message come
> > from? So I don't see any way to change the SMTP response.
>
> Ah, this is another "feature". That message is the default for a
> temporary error, because some sysadmins do not want to give out specific
> data about their systems to other hosts.
>
> Sorry, I'd forgotten about this additional feature. You should be able
> to override this by setting
>
> smtp_return_error_details = true


Thank you very much. This is exactly what is was looking for.

> > Or am I wrong that a :fail: or :defer: message given in a
> > redirect router is primarily intended as an information for the sender
> > not for the logs?
>
> No, you are not wrong[*], but this is an awkward interaction between
> verification and ACLs. It's my fault. I didn't think about it hard
> enough when I was inventing ACLs.
>
> However, I am sure that changing the default would now be a bad idea,
> because it would be so incompatible.


I absolutely agree.

> [*] But I suspect very few humans actually read such messages - and we
> know that some software mangles the messages. For example, some software
> reports all 550 errors as "Unknown user", whatever the text says. :-(


Very true, indeed. But I don't want to be the person not telling the
truth...

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