Re: [Exim] New generation of spammers

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Autor: Jason Robertson
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To: David Chait, exim-users
Betreff: Re: [Exim] New generation of spammers
Another fun option, is to place the mail server in a location, that
allows you to bill for services eg California, or you could also place
them in Virginia (if I remember), and just bill them.

Or you can do the AOL, and sue for millions.

My 2, 3 and 4 cents worth, damn it now I am broke. I better stop eating
out all of the time..

Jason

On 12 Mar 2003 at 13:33, David Chait wrote:

> Correct, or you could just go to UUNET and prosecute them for spamming
> to begin with. If enough ppl complain then they loose connectivity. The
> only way to fight spammers is to make their lives / buisness more
> difficult to stomach. Turning a blind eye wont solve the problem.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Szekely" <gms@???>
> To: <exim-users@???>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Exim] New generation of spammers
>
>
> > >Not like its hard to find these low lifes :)
> > >
> > >For Hotoptions.net
> > >
> > >enjoy...
> > >
> > >Cyber Services, Inc. UU-208-226-48-2 (NET-208-226-48-0-1)
> > >                                   208.226.48.0 - 208.226.51.255
> > >Cyber Services, Inc. CSRV-6 (NET-208-226-48-0-2)
> > >                                   208.226.48.0 - 208.226.48.254

> >
> >
> > You can block port 25 for 208.226.48.0 - 208.226.48.254
> > but hotoptions.net will still resolve to 127.0.0.1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Their ISP is UUNET
> > >
> > >Registrant:
> > > Advertising International
> > > 5840 Red Bug Lake Rd. #415
> > > Winter Springs, FL 32708
> > > US
> > > 407-650-3437
> > >Fax:407-650-3437
> > >
> > >
> > >Domain Name: HOTOPTIONS.NET
> > >
> > >Administrative Contact:
> > > Newlan, Cynthia vacplanners@???
> > > 5840 Red Bug Lake Rd. #415
> > > Winter Springs, FL 32708
> > > US
> > > 407-650-3437
> > >Fax:407-650-3437
> > >
> > >
> > >Technical Contact:
> > > Newlan, Cynthia vacplanners@???
> > > 5840 Red Bug Lake Rd. #415
> > > Winter Springs, FL 32708
> > > US
> > > 407-650-3437
> > >Fax:407-650-3437
> > >
> > >
> > >Record last updated 03-04-2003 01:15:21 AM
> > >Record expires on 01-30-2004
> > >Record created on 01-30-2003
> > >
> > >Domain servers in listed order:
> > > NS0.DIRECTNIC.COM 204.251.10.100
> > > NS1.DIRECTNIC.COM 206.251.177.2
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "George Szekely" <gms@???>
> > >To: <exim-users@???>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:57 AM
> > >Subject: [Exim] New generation of spammers
> > >
> > >
> > >> Take "hotoptions.net" for example. It's impossible to lock them
> > >> out. Do a ping, tracerout, lookup, whatever... It all resolves to
> > >> "127.0.0.1". How? These spammers own their own registry.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ; <<>> DiG 2.1 <<>> @ns1.earthlink.net hotoptions.net. ANY
> > >> ; (1 server found)
> > >> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> > >> ;; got answer:
> > >> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
> > >> ;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 4, Auth: 2, Addit: 0
> > >> ;; QUESTIONS:
> > >> ;; hotoptions.net, type = ANY, class = IN
> > >> ;; ANSWERS:
> > >> hotoptions.net. 2533 SOA ns1.directnic.com.
> > >> hostmaster.hotoptions.net. (
> > >> 1047487529 serial
> > >> 16384 refresh (4 hours 33 mins 4 secs)
> > >> 2048 retry (34 mins 8 secs)
> > >> 1048576 expire (12 days 3 hours 16 mins 16 secs)
> > >> 2560 ) minimum (42 mins 40 secs)
> > > > hotoptions.net. 61942 A 127.0.0.1
> > >> hotoptions.net. 86373 NS ns0.directnic.com.
> > >> hotoptions.net. 86373 NS ns1.directnic.com.
> > >> ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
> > >> hotoptions.net. 86373 NS ns0.directnic.com.
> > >> hotoptions.net. 86373 NS ns1.directnic.com.
> > >> ;; Total query time: 12 msec
> > >> ;; FROM: us.mirror.menandmice.com to SERVER: ns1.earthlink.net
> > >207.217.126.41
> > >> ;; WHEN: Wed Mar 12 09:51:44 2003
> > >> ;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 172
> > >>
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Jason Robertson
Now at the Nation Research Council.