On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 02:35:23AM +0200, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
> Quoth Matthew Byng-Maddick on Wed, Jan 02, 2002:
> > Fetchmail is a pile of crap, because it often loses mail, due to this. It
> > ignores any error return codes in delivering the message, but happily
> > deletes it from the pop/imap server anyway.
> Agreed, and I've seen it happen. Mail should NEVER be lost.
Yes.
> Unless it's an undeliverable bounce message, or is explicitly
An undeliverable bounce should go to a postmaster, or should at least
stay frozen (in exim, anyway) and notify the postmaster.
> blackholed, that is. What I mean is: mail from a real human to a
> real human should NEVER be lost.
Explicitly blackholed can be wrong too. Look at the AOL case...
> I heard that getmail is a good program that does things right.
popclient, a part of Mail::Audit also gets it right, I believe, though
I've never used it, and so can't speak for it.
> > This is a good reason for NOT using SMTP delivery, IMO.
> Or implementing it correctly, including some sort of queue. Mutt
In which case you become an MTA.
> (which I use), when encountering a problem running sendmail,
> where you can retry, postpone or abort the message. It also
> shows you the full error message.
It's still an MUA, not an MTA. And anyway, we *know* mutt does things
properly, at least by default.
MBM
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