Quoth Sean Bushby on Fri, Sep 29, 2000:
> Firstly I know I'll get flamed for this,
You'll also get flamed for not wrapping text to 75 characters (or
whatever the standard is).
> but from a corporate let's get the work done aspect of things, monitoring I think is perfectly in the companies right, it's not the employees email, it's given to them by the comapny to do company related mails with. Yes I know I sound like prick and I myself am guilty of private mail.
Guilty of private mail? Give me a SIGINT. Is it OK to call your
spouse from work to tell her you'll be late? I would think it
is. Then why is it bad to e-mail her?
Where is the fine line between corporate and private use of the
phone? Assuming you don't have a mobile phone, are you allowed
to call your doctor from work to make an appointment? Can you
give your friends your work phone number at all?
And how does it all apply to e-mail? What if I answer a spam
complaint and chat with the guy who complained in the same
message (this has actually happened)?
> I regulary sit and monitor the email in out of the company, not reading it that's just plain snooping, but large attachment I scan for files and if they *.mp|e|g or *.jpg etc... non work related and exceed 1 meg or is being sent to half the address book, the name, size of email and to which people it's going to, all this get's added to the list of mail abusers, and the mail get's deleted.
I have an idea for you: record all outgoing (and maybe even
incoming) phone calls, and listen to those longer than 20
minutes. Spending 20 minutes on the phone costs more than
transferring 1MB over the Net (even taking MIME encapsulation
into account). And it spends more employee's time (20 minutes
vs. ~3 minutes).
> Crap job I know but someone has to do it.
I would not work for a company in which someone (not necessarily
me) has to do such job. I wonder what you do if your users use
PGP.
> And all this could be eliminated when I work out how to take the system_filter.exim and make them .forward files so that they reject the attachments, but untill then.... I monitor !
Cool. Reject attachment. What if your business partner wants to
sent a picture of a new whatever-you're-dealing-with to your CEO
for purchace approval? Eh? Exim is a very nice software, but
the filtering mechanism doesn't have an 'if business_related'
directive yet.
Vadik.
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