Re: U-ZO: Re: [Exim] Malformed address on a list

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Autor: Marilyn Davis
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Asunto: Re: U-ZO: Re: [Exim] Malformed address on a list
Jeffrey said:

> I wasn't quiet sure what angel was for. Is it to defend against, Alice
> maliciously and repeately sending subscribe requests for Bob to a list
> Bob has no interest in?


Actually Alice maliciously sent lots of subscribe requests to many
unwanted lists for Bob and everyone in his group -- bringing down
Bob's community as well as being a big problem for the administrators
of the lists. I'd bet that Alice was the guy in Nicaragua. I found
him from analyzing the attack on the voting facility.

> For shelter you may wish to look at the code developed for anonymous
> remailers.


I like running my own code so I'm ready to modify it when some new
attack happens. All the code is done, neat as a pin, in use, and
ready to release. I just don't want to deal with any interest it
generates until I've released the next version of eVote.

> Let me rephrase. You are providing some enabling tools for the people
> of Chiapas to develop an open and participatory system. I do wish you
> and them well.


No, that's not it yet. Almost none of our participants are in
Chiapas. We are people around the globe that support the aims of the
Zapatistas, and therefore emulate them online.

> PS: I don't particularly mind my message to you being quoted to the list,
> but you have quoted to the exim list a message which I labeled at the top


> "[mailed only, and not posted to the list]"


You know, I must have lost something because I can't find this
anywhere on your messages. If I posted something sent privately, it
was inadvertant. I didn't realize anything was sent to me privately.

This started the political talk, which I did my best to minimize:

> Best of luck (even though if I were a Mexican, I would be voting against
> those you support. So double check any security advice I give you).[1]
>
> Cheers,
>
> -j
>
> Note:
>  [1] I hope that any followup to that last bit would take place off list.
>      I've already contributed to one vaguely off-topic thread.  I
>      certainly don't want to spark a very off-topic one.


You sent it to the exim-users list as well as to the under-zo list,
the list of administrators of the Zapatistas Online lists.

Next time I need help, maybe, because Zapatistas Online are a little
better understood, we'll do better at sticking to exim -- although
it's hard because email and email lists are on the cusps of
technology, laws, politics, and social interaction. So it's hard to
talk about security without considering the laws and politics. I
think that considering the potential for off-topicness, we all did
great!!!

Thanks again.

Marilyn Davis, Ph.D.
eVote - online polling software for email lists
http://www.deliberate.com 
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