On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 01:51:18PM +0000,
Peter Galbavy <Peter.Galbavy@???> is thought to have said:
> One of the "discussions" going on in NANOG is the use of ORBS *by*
> spammers to spot open relays, since ORBS (apperently - I have not
> looked) publish their lists on the web.
>
> This may mean that if an MX is in ORBS, it will mean that it gets used
> more for spam.
>
> Sort of circular reasoning.
They publish relays that have been open for more than 30 days on their
website. Whether or not they will admit to it, they want people to spam
through those relays to exert pressure on those who operate them to close
them, since they claim that a relay that has been open for that long is
unlikely to be closed by the sysadmins responsible for that organization
based on notifcation alone. They liken it to the publication of smurfable
networks on
www.netscan.org. Right or wrong, that is their reasoning.
Tabor
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Tabor J. Wells twells@???
Fsck It! Just another victim of the ambient morality