On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:19:41 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
>Exim receives a message and passes it to Listar.
>Listar receives the message and creates a message for delivery to
>multiple recipients.
>Listar passes the new message to Exim for delivery to multiple
>recipient.
>Exim fails.
No. It delivers ~230 messages which are all in that very same message.
Exim does *NOT* fail.
>Listar picks up Exim's failure (non-zero exit?) and creates a bounce
>message.
Exim is creating an empty *bounce*. Here it is again, I'll preface my
comments with ##.
==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE==================
>Received: from rpglink.com (teleute) [192.168.0.1]
> by rpglink.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
> id 10whTT-0006kB-00; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:29:35 -0700
>Received: with LISTAR (v0.122a); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:29:34 -0700 (PDT)
>Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:29:34 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Listar <listar@???>
>To: Members flagged CCERRORS of list pmmail <listar@???>
>Subject: Error report/bounce for 'pmmail'
>Message-ID: <listar-06231999002934.25925.1@teleute>
>X-Listar-Version: Listar v0.122a
>Status:
>
The following error message was delivered to the bounce address
for the list 'pmmail' from 'MAILER-DAEMON@???'.
You are receiving this because you have the CCERRORS flag set.
## The above is the Listar message. I know it is for the PMMail mailing
## list because all bounces return to pmmail-bounce and are handled
## by the bounce code in Listar. Listar also returns the bounce, verbatim,
## below.
- --------------- Error message follows ----------------------
Received: from rpglink.com (teleute) [192.168.0.1]
by rpglink.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian))
id 10whTS-0006k6-00; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:29:34 -0700
Date: Wed Jun 23 00:29:34 1999
From: MAILER-DAEMON@???
To: pmmail-bounce@???
Subject: Errors while delivering message
Message-Id: <E10whTS-0006k6-00@???>
X-Listar-Bounce: MAILER-DAEMON@??? for pmmail
- --------------- Error message done -------------------------
- ---
Listar v0.122a - job execution complete.
===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE===================
## See, it is an empty bounce message from Exim to pmmail-bounce.
## It says there were errors but does not list a single one.
>Listar creates a failure message.
>Listar passes the failure message to Exim.
>Exim sends the failure message.
>You mailed this failure message to the Exim mailing list. :-)
>The reason I suspect that your problem is with Exim is that you can't
>find any indication of a failure in Exim's rejectlog, nor in Exim's
>paniclog.
Correct, nothing in any of the three logs.
>The problem is exacerbated by the fact that Listar doesn't tell you
>_anything_ about the failure. It could at least tell you Exim's exit
>code. :-(
Exim could at least include *TEXT* in the bounce. The exit code was 0.
It accepted the message fine, delivered to the ~230 messages and then created
an empty bounce message which it then delivered to Listar.
>PS: There's no need to be facetious. I'm not an Exim developer and so
> have no defensive feelings that might lead me to be unhelpful. I'm
> trying to help, it just looks like you don't need Exim-specific
> help.
Sorry, just that when someone points out the obvious I kinga get a bit
bent because I feel they are mocking me needlessly.
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