Sorry about the long one but,
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 05:27:46AM -0700, Todd Lyons wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM, The Doctor <doctor@???> wrote:
> > ----- Forwarded message from Maureen Esch <maureen@???> -----
>
> We'll assume that this is your customer?
>
> > DAVE
> >
> > It is still happening
> >
> > When is this going to be fixed!!!!
> >
> > And I am still getting unverified server message AND this From:
> > from user's verified address [mailto:user@ns2] On Behalf
> > Of Sernder's name.
>
> Explained below.
>
> > This is not GOOD - if you don't think you can resolve it in the next week -
> > I am going to have to CHANGE providers NEXT WEEK
> > This has gone on long enough - I CAN NOT continue with ALL these email
> > issues
>
> It is not clear to me exactly what the issue is that she is
> complaining about, though I suspect the AUTH error that is shown below
> is tied to it.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:mailer-daemon@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:50 AM
> > To: rejected address
> > Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> >
> > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> >
> > virtual address
>
> "virtual address" is your user above that's complaining?
>
> > Technical details of permanent failure:
> > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient
> > domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further
> > information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server
> > returned was: 535 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure
> > (SMTP AUTH failed with the remote server) (state 8).
>
> Gmail is attempting to use Auth with your server. What do you see in
> your logs about why auth is failing? What do you seen when you run
> 'exim -bh ip.of.gmail.server' and act like you're gmail sending an
> email to this address?
>
> > ----- Original message -----
> >
> > what the heck is that address???
> >> *From:* sender verified address [mailto:sender verified address] *On
> >> Behalf Of *user
> > I have never seen this before...this is what the email address used to be
> > ????
>
> Gmail sticks to the RFC's very closely and adds "On Behalf Of" to
> emails sent with an email address that they do not serve. Basically
> there are three ways to use gmail servers:
> 1. Use a gmail.com address.
> 2. Assign your domain to be used with gmail.
> 3. Use an email alias with gmail (your domain is served by someone
> other than gmail servers).
>
> Case #1 is simple. Say I have the address todd@???. It's
> obvious that this is served by gmail. So when I send from gmail, the
> >From header just has First Last <todd@???>
>
> Case #2 is straightforward too. Say I have the domain example.com
> signed up with gmail. I sign in as todd@???, and I can send
> as todd@??? and the From header has First Last
> <todd@???>.
>
> Case #3 is more complicated. Say I ALSO have the domain example.org,
> but I host it on my own mail server. I have todd@??? on my
> mail server forwarded to todd@???, which gets delivered to
> gmail servers. I add todd@??? as an alias sending address in
> my todd@??? mailbox on gmail.
>
> Here's the complication. When I send an email as todd@???
> using gmail, gmail knows that it's not the primary service for this
> domain. Therefore, it sends email from your alias, but it says "on
> behalf of" a mailbox that it _does_ have complete authority for, the
> one you signed in as, which is todd@???. So you see From
> First Last <todd@???> On Behalf Of <todd@???>.
>
> There are two ways to make this stop happening.
> 1. Change the customer domain to be hosted by gmail. Probably not
> your goal since that would take business away from you (but if you
> truly value your customer, you should mention it as an option).
> 2. Configure gmail to use smtp auth to send *@example.org (i.e. your
> customer's domain) email through your mail server.
>
> See http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/send-mail-from-another-address-without.html
>
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:46 AM, User<
> > virtual address> wrote:
> >> Back at you
> >> But notice it is still has the odd address -
> >>
> >> *From:* user-verified-address [mailto:user-verified-address]
> >> *On Behalf Of *USer
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:55 AM
> >> *To:* REcipient
> >> *Subject:* test test test
> >>
> >> this is a test..
> >> sending email from gmail -using promoteyourbusiness as my return
> >> address-is coming back undeliverable.
>
> *WHAT* is saying that her return address is coming back undeliverable.
> What is she using as her return address? And who is she sending to
> that says her return address is undeliverable.
>
> >> So I am sending from Mozilla to promoteyourbusiness
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> > Do I need a rewrite rule?
>
> For what?
>
Somehow M$O, yes outlook from Offfice is saying
Sendmaer: Send on behalf of virtual e-maill address.
I with to rewrite sender so that it is
picking up the information fron the From: line.
> --
> Regards... Todd
> "It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but
> unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting."
> "You might be a skeptic if you have pedantically argued the topic of pedantry."
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