Re: [exim] [exim-announce] Exim 4.67 released

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Author: Chris Lear
To: exim-users
Subject: Re: [exim] [exim-announce] Exim 4.67 released
* Peter Bowyer wrote (03/05/07 06:02):
> On 03/05/07, Kjetil Torgrim Homme <kjetilho@???> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:02 +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote:
>>> On Sunday 22 April 2007 22:23, Jeremy Harris wrote:
>>>> The docs link on still gives a 4.66 doc?
>>> I've updated the webpages now. If I missed anything, please speak out.
>> PLEASE make the URL to the Exim documentation stable. every time a new
>> version comes out, the Google page rank is reset. in addition, nobody
>> links to the documentation since the URLs will die within a year or so
>> anyway. the end result is that a Google search will send people to list
>> archives or shoddy howtos, and *never* the official documentation.
> Whilst I agree with the principle, this is harder than you're
> implying. The internal structure of the doc tree changes (if only
> slightly) with each release, so it's not possible to have a persistent
> URL for every sub-page - and when chapter numbers change, this
> amplifies the problem. I think a bit of a redesign would help, though
> - but remember that the web docs are generated with a toolchain which
> also produces the other formats so it's not necessarily simple.
> Judicious use of Google sitemaps would be be a good thing, too.
>> as an example, I just searched for "isip exim". I got 512 hits, but at
>> 156 Google said the rest were elided since they were similar to what I'd
>> already seen. not *one* of these hits were at the closest I
>> got was a mirror: <>.
>> this was hit #15.
> But the old versions of the docs are not removed, so those should
> still hit - I wonder why they don't?
>> trying to emulate a slightly more savvy user, I tried the search "isip
>>". you'll get the list archive almost exclusively. first
>> hit outside the archive is a reference to the documentation to 4.30 at
>> hit #49. the two hits for 4.66 documentation come VERY LAST!
>> obviously, 4.67 documentation can't be found yet at all.
> This is certainly an indexing issue - again, sitemaps would do the trick.
>> this not clearly helping the situation with newbie users not reading or
>> even finding the documentation, and the fix is simple. please do it.
> As I said, it's not quite as simple as you're suggesting. But it's
> probably worth some effort, I agree.

I agree too. I remember this coming up a while ago (OK, I brought it
up). A certain P Bowyer came up with some good suggestions.