"Wanabe-womanizer" Marc Perkel gaggled:
> If you use the Sender Address Verification features of Exim then
> UCEProtect will blacklist you as a spammer. So he admits what I've been
> warning you about.
This has nothing to do with Exim.
If you do SAV you are an Abuser.
If you hit an UCEPROTECT-Trap out there with an SAV you got listed.
No matter who or what you are or what you are using.
> As everyone knows including Johann I run a spam filtering business.
This does not matter, as long as you are abusing other systems.
> So if you are running a blacklist and you know you
> are blacklisting the IP addresses of your competitors knowing they
> aren't spammers, what does that say about you.
You are not in the position to be a competitor for me nor you will ever be.
The difference between us is:
If i do something wrong, i stand to my fault.
If you do something wrong, the others are guilty :-)
> UCEProtect also charges money to remove false positive from it's list.
That is complete nonsense.
I never had a problem to public say "sorry" if we had listed someone
accidently.
This happend exactly 2 times in the last 6 years.
You were not accidently listed.
> to list me manually on his black lists then he has no standing to
> complain when someone does the same to him.
That is what reflects your personality:
"Oh these bad UCEPROTECT guys have listed my IP's , so lets list them too
:-)"
That leads to the question how old are you ? 3 or 4 ....
Search for a Kindergarden in your area...
> Generally I might ignore his message but his blacklist affects all of us
> and as he has said, if he doesn't like the way you filter spam his going
> to list you on his blacklist.
No it does not affect all of you.
It does affect the brianless using a "feature" because it is there, and
because they
think they can burden their "Spamfiltering" on third partys systems.
> I also believe that APEWS is just a stealth copy of his own lists as
> they the exactly the same positions on listing Exim users who use SAV.
See:
http://www.uceprotect.org/FAQS/apews.html
> I recognize the same arrogance in their policies. The are also some
> strange secret society and as with UCEProtect, if you are wrongly listed
> you can't get removed.
The same lies as Moris usually tells in nanae ....
That leads us to the question: Are you one of Moris friends?
What will happen next? Will you call me a Nazi commander as he did?
Johann Steigenberger
